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May 14, 2013 at 6:31 pm #194308Killian JonesParticipant
@Keb wrote:
I’d love that, too, Steliokontos. I kinda hate the idea that our other Storybrooke friends got left behind–team 7 and Anton and Ruby and Granny and Whale and Archie particularly. They added so much color to the show and lightness that the main cast, stuck in life-and-death drama constantly, can’t always afford. So I’m hoping that they won’t be entirely forgotten.
But I’m kinda hoping for Belle to protect Storybrooke and then start fighting for a way to get back to Rumple. She needs him almost as much as he does her. I think she’ll learn something about Neal (or possibly Henry) and that will be her catalyst to seek Rumple out, since she’s evidently willing to accept her heroic mission to protect Storybrooke and his wishes that she be out of harm’s way for the present. And I’m hoping it happens quickly because I do feel like with all the other regulars in NL or the EF, she might get forgotten about otherwise, and that would make me very very sad. (Because, yes, I’m a Belle fan. But you knew that.)
What I think is if she does learn magic she will start trying to use it to get Rumple back. She may figure out to get to other worlds too I mean the bean plant is still in Regina’ (Or maybe new mayor Belle’s) office so Tiny can start making the beans again. It think they’ll do more of a flash sideways thing between SB and NL for the start of the season if Adam said that we’ll be pleasantly surprised than that must mean that Belle is going to be doing plenty of stuff for us to be excited about.
[adrotate group="5"]May 14, 2013 at 6:39 pm #194313RumplesGirlKeymasterCould Belle use the hat Emma made in Hat Trick to get to FTL (after some how finding out about Neal) and then taking both of them to NL?
Ok: randomness
If Rumple bargins with a mermaid for a mirror, the other of which is in his shop he could tell Belle that Neal is still alive AFTER Aurora tells Snow in a dream in the Red Room. Rumple could ask Belle to use the hat Emma made that is in her car to go to SB and retrieve Neal (betcha Plot Device BF could power the hat) then they go to NL.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 15, 2013 at 4:27 am #194501PheeParticipantLast night, as I was about to fall asleep, and was still pondering Once stuff, I decided that Nealfire will find a way back to SB, and will team up with Belle to figure out where Charmingstiltskins&Co went to. Then they’ll take a few beans, (which have been regrown from the plant in Regina’s office), hop on Grumpy’s boat and take it to NL. Then they’ll get involved in whatever’s going down there to defeat Pan. Then each boat load of our heroes will pop a bean and go back to SB.
May 31, 2013 at 6:54 pm #196765MysteryKat25ParticipantI was thinking about how magic works differently in every realm but that Rumple has seemingly been to NL before. What if part of the reason he left Belle behind (along with wanting her safe) is that once they enter NL he’ll go full on Dark One again? If/when he does, a TLK from Belle would undo that curse and I don’t think he’s ready for that yet, especially if he thinks he’ll need his DO magic to get Henry back. I don’t think he really wants to explain to Belle yet how he’s not ready for it and even once they have Henry back, Belle may want to celebrate and kiss him and/or think ok: now I can undo your curse and if he’s not ready for it to be undone yet even once Henry is safe (we know he has issues letting magic go) then why give her the option?
It is likely that it will return to Mr. Gold form upon returning to SB so it wouldn’t be an issue. He doesn’t seem to think they’ll come back from NL which is the only sticking point here cause otherwise why not take her with him at least and leave Granny, Ruby, Archie, Anton, and the dwarves to take care of everybody else, but it’s something that popped into my heading regarding RumBelle for S3.
I look forward to seeing her get back to her fighting self as I enjoyed those episodes and want to see her become a strong character on her own and one that shows she can keep up with Rumple and not just have to hang on his arm. She’s tough in her own right and would have been fine in NL but she’s staying behind for a reason so I hope it’s a good one!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 31, 2013 at 7:10 pm #196768RumplesGirlKeymasterI wonder if it is going to take more than TLK for the Dark One’s curse to be fully broken. It got started in Skin Deep, but obviously came back. I think with Rumple it has to be a combo of self sacrifice and TLK. So if he gives up his power to save Henry from PP that’s part one, but what if it nearly kills him? Then, like in B and the B, Belle’s true love saves him from death.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 31, 2013 at 7:42 pm #196770MysteryKat25Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I wonder if it is going to take more than TLK for the Dark One’s curse to be fully broken. It got started in Skin Deep, but obviously came back. I think with Rumple it has to be a combo of self sacrifice and TLK. So if he gives up his power to save Henry from PP that’s part one, but what if it nearly kills him? Then, like in B and the B, Belle’s true love saves him from death.
I could see that happening (& I like the paralleling with the story we all know and love). The only thing I question with their first kiss is that it did start to undo it and I think had he not stopped their kiss it would have worked. I think the big sacrifice part of it will be that he has to finally let go of his desire to hold on to the magic because until he really lets her in and kiss him as full-on DO, it won’t be undone.
I’m not sure how to balance the two unless they’re in some place where he is the DO and then he almost dies and Belle kisses him and by undoing the DO curse she also saves him? I could see it as a background reason e didn’t want her going with him though, as he has knowledge of NL – we’ll see if he does become the DO once he enters NL (and what a shock that would be to Emma!)
My head is spinning again….
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May 31, 2013 at 7:53 pm #196773RumplesGirlKeymasterWe’ve talked in a few places about if Rumple will be full on DO in NL. From a practical standpoint, I wonder if it’s asking a bit much for RC to be in that makeup every single episode. His wake up call is like 4am or something ridiculous.
But I would like to know what conditions must be met in order for him to be full on DO. Is it only in FTL?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 31, 2013 at 7:57 pm #196774MysteryKat25Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
We’ve talked in a few places about if Rumple will be full on DO in NL. From a practical standpoint, I wonder if it’s asking a bit much for RC to be in that makeup every single episode. His wake up call is like 4am or something ridiculous.
But I would like to know what conditions must be met in order for him to be full on DO. Is it only in FTL?
Very good question. I would assume definitely FTL and then anything else is up for debate.
Part of the thinking that led me down this road originally was wondering how magic would work differently in NL since it seems to work differently everywhere else. When everyone got on the ship they didn’t know where they were headed or what that might mean and all had a reason to be there and see it through no matter what but it made me wonder whether their magic would work in NL or not.
Rumple, Regina, and Emma should all have magic but I was trying to figure out what might happen if they don’t for some reason. I’d guess they still would (and it might be a good chance to get some training in for Emma depending on what they have to face) but it did make me question what would happen, especially regarding Rumple & DO-status.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
May 31, 2013 at 8:05 pm #196775RumplesGirlKeymasterAccording to The Return:
Blue Fairy: In this world, yes. You see, what ails your father is specific to our realm. His powers do not belong here. You must go where you can escape this wretched curse.
I’ve always been interested in the line I put into bold. It makes it seem as though outside of FTL the DO’s curse is either non-existent or subdued to a great extent. Yet Rumple can still wield some impressive magic in SB; it’s just his appearance that remains un-DO. There also seems to be a contradiction that what ails Rumple is specific to FTL yet his powers to not belong there.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 31, 2013 at 8:39 pm #196777MysteryKat25ParticipantWell since he didn’t go full-on DO in SB, he was able to kiss Belle no problem so it sounds like she will likely have to undo his curse in FTL.
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