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February 15, 2013 at 5:52 pm #173535spinninggoldParticipant
@obisgirl wrote:
the term spinster also refers to an old maid, is an older, childless woman who has never been married.
I know but this is OuaT we are talking about… Double meaning central. I mean I’d be disappointed if they didn’t use double meaning
[adrotate group="5"]February 15, 2013 at 8:48 pm #173557PriceofMagicParticipantPerhaps Rumple’s father is considered cowardly because he didn’t want anything to do with Rumple or his mother. Men who get women pregnant then just turn their backs on them are considered cowards for not taking responsibility for their actions.
Rumple’s biggest fear could be that he wouldn’t be a good dad to Bae just like his father wasn’t a good dad to him.
As for the spinsters, perhaps they are his mother’s sisters.
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Keeper of FelixFebruary 15, 2013 at 9:40 pm #173562obisgirlParticipanthmm, I can see that.
February 15, 2013 at 11:10 pm #173586maryrose d.Participant@SpinningGold wrote:
OK now for my theory, which actually started a few days ago. I mentioned causually that it would be interesting to introduce the three fates, or as they are known in the Odyssey, the three spinsters to the story. The are very much like Rumpel, deciding the fates of men.
So these would be a perfect fitThe Fates have the subtle but awesome power of deciding a man’s destiny. They assign a man to good or evil. Their most obvious choice is choosing how long a man lives. There are three Fates. Clotho, the spinner, who spins the thread of life. Lachesis, the measurer, who choses the lot in life one will have and measures off how long it is to be. Atropos, she who cannot be turned, who at death with her shears cuts the thread of life.
The Fates are old and predate the gods. It is not entirely clear how far their power extends. It is possible that they determine the fate of the gods as well. In any case, not even the most powerful is willing to triffle with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OdysseySo this would make Odysseus Rumpel’s dad. He can be seen as a coward, his travels lead many of his crew to their deaths as he slipped out every time. He was cunning, like Rumpel, depending on his wit to get him out of sticky situations.
Now I don’t remember it all… I will have to brush up on Mythology, but so far it seems a perfect fit.
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Ok it could be Hector:The next day, the enraged Achilles renounces the wrath that kept him out of action and routs the Trojans back to the city. Hector chooses to remain outside the gates of Troy and face Achilles, partially because had he listened to Polydamas and retreated with his troops the previous night, Achilles would not have killed so many Trojans. However, when he sees Achilles he is seized by fear, and turns to flee, as Achilles gives chase to him three times around the city. Hector then masters his fear and turns to face Achilles. But Athena, in the disguise of Hector’s brother Deiphobus, deluded Hector. He requests from Achilles that the victor would return the other’s body after the duel, (though Hector himself made it clear he planned to throw Patroclus’ body to the dogs) but Achilles refuses. Achilles hurls his spear at Hector, who dodges it, but Athena brought it back to Achilles’ hands without Hector noticing. Hector then throws his spear at Achilles; it hits the shield but to no avail. When Hector turns to face his supposed brother to retrieve another spear he sees no one there. At that moment he realizes that he is doomed. Hector decides that he will go down fighting and that men will talk about his bravery in years to come; the desire to achieve ever-lasting honor was one of the most fierce for soldiers living in the timocratic (honor based) society of the age.
There is also mention of an infant son http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector
I would love them to incorporate greek mythology, but I have been studying about the Trojan war, and I don’t think rumpels dad to be like Hector, Hector was brave, cunning was able to drive back the greek army with just ares on his side. also for a fact the greeks threw his infant son off a mountain or a palace, that being said I could seeing him be like paris, who was cast out by his father because of a prophecy that he would destroy troy one day, and well didn’t do much fighting in the war except with Menelaus which he had Aphrodite’s help with, I don’t think they mention him having a son, but there is various endings to paris and Helen, could rumple be his son and Helen had to hid him from the greeks so gave him the spinners to raise, after paris died a coward
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February 16, 2013 at 1:11 am #173604playaritaParticipantRaised by spinsters means he might have been raised by the unmarried aunts of the family. That could have lead to an unhappy circumstance (think Jane Eyre) where if he had a congenital defect (the limp) then he would have been ostracized by his family. He may have to have taught himself to read, write etc and been forced to learn a trade versus schooling etc. If it was because of the war then even more so.
February 17, 2013 at 5:12 am #173708vampirefan12ParticipantAfter reading that spoiler tweet about Rum’s father being a ”coward”, I really hope his dad is the cowardly lion but I don’t know who his mother could be.
The candidates I have for Rum’s mother: Dorothy, Any of the Wicked Witches in Oz, Glinda, or somebody completely different that doesn’t live in Oz. .
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