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February 18, 2013 at 3:45 am #136018king arthurParticipant
What does everyone think of the relationship between Rumple and Mila. We’re they really in love? Do you think Mila is justified in not standing by Rumple no matter the circumstances? Would she really have preferred to be a widow?
[adrotate group="5"]February 18, 2013 at 4:09 am #173897andreth starkParticipantIt is kind of weird. She seemed to be in love with him, but i think she overreacts at his desertion, it is not reason enough to change love into disdain. Especially when, at the beginning, she didn’t want him to go into the battle. I don’t know, better the son of a coward than an orphan. Better being with your beloved than being widow with a newborn child.
Something else should be there. Unless Milah was infatuated with her husband and not truly in love. (???)February 18, 2013 at 4:17 am #173904jolly rogerParticipantThat’s not love. If she really loved him then she would’ve stuck by him no matter what. In a marriage, you promise yourself to that person, no matter what may happens, and you face the future and any obstacles together. It may have been infatuation, or Milah may have married him for security – we may never find out. But this epsiode just gave me more proof that Milah never loved Rumple. Especially with the fact that she would have rather him die, which I truly believe that she would have because she even mentioned it in 2×4.
This also has me thinking that Milah may have never really loved Hook either. Hook is the complete opposite of Rumple – he is strong, brave, a fighter etc. Milah probably needed a change. She wasn’t necessarily in love with Hook but in love with what he could give her – adventure, take her away from being married to a coward. It’s what she was so desperate to have and would have done anything for it. In a way I sympathise, but you never under any curcumstance abandon your kid. I personally think that Rumple was a good husband to her, he did care for her, even loved her (maybe), and she only thought of herself.Something I also noticed was when Rumple came home and Milah was holding Baelfire. After they had their argument, Milah gave Bae to Rumple and just walked away. It may have seen like a little thing, but I know that it isn’t easy to let a baby (especiialy a neworn) out of your site, not even for a second. My first thought was that, Milah didn’t love the child anymore because it was Rumples’ kid – the son of a coward, who would most likely turn out just like his father. So she may have taken care of him and been a mother to him because she was his mother, not because she wanted to.
Anyway these are my thoughts. Sorry its long.
February 18, 2013 at 4:25 am #173911andreth starkParticipant@Jolly Roger wrote:
Something I also noticed was when Rumple came home and Milah was holding Baelfire. After they had their argument, Milah gave Bae to Rumple and just walked away. It may have seen like a little thing, but I know that it isn’t easy to let a baby (especiialy a neworn) out of your site, not even for a second. My first thought was that, Milah didn’t love the child anymore because it was Rumples’ kid – the son of a coward, who would most likely turn out just like his father. So she may have taken care of him and been a mother to him because she was his mother, not because she wanted to..
Yep, i also noticed it. It could be just a foretelling of Milah leaving her family, but still it shows a lot of her personality: changing, moody, a bit cruel… I’ve never liked her, and the more i know about her, the less i like that woman.
One can’t judge a child by what their parents did. :S :SFebruary 18, 2013 at 4:46 am #173920naomiParticipantTo me, Milah’s a very vain person who is worried more about what people think of her than about what Rumple or Bae might be feeling. If she really thought her son would suffer more by having a coward for a father than being fatherless, why didn’t she take Bae with her on Hook’s ship?
February 18, 2013 at 5:07 am #173931PheeParticipantTheir first scene had me convinced that she had indeed loved him, (which makes it even more of an insult when she spat at him that she never had, right before he killed her).
But the change in her in that scene where he came back from the war was just SUCH a complete 180, it totally threw me. I guess she’d been getting crap from people in town about her husband being a coward, but still, if you love your husband, you stand by him, and she’d already written him off before he’d limped in the door! 😡
@Naomi wrote:
If she really thought her son would suffer more by having a coward for a father than being fatherless, why didn’t she take Bae with her on Hook’s ship?
Excellent question!
February 18, 2013 at 5:23 am #173939SlurpeezParticipant@Phee wrote:
@Naomi wrote:
If she really thought her son would suffer more by having a coward for a father than being fatherless, why didn’t she take Bae with her on Hook’s ship?
Excellent question!
Yes, that is the same question Rumple asked his wife just before he killed her. She said she was miserable being latched to the town coward. She abandoned Baelfire, because he is the reason she was stuck in a miserable marriage. If it hadn’t been for Baelfire, Milha probably wouldn’t have stuck around for as long as she did, but would have left the minute she what Rumple had done to injure himself. She did the minimal job as a mother by making sure her child was raised until the age where he no longer needed full-time childcare. As soon as she met Hook, however, she didn’t blink twice about abandoning her husband and son.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 18, 2013 at 6:49 am #173975MysteryKat25ParticipantShe seemed to be very much in love with him and was concerned about him going off to fight. I think what happened after that was everybody she knew kept telling her what a coward he was and that he went to extremes (injuring himself) to get out of what he got himself into to come home. She really seemed to hate the coward thing and just refused to accept that he listened to the seer and thought he was actually doing her a favor.
What I really hated was that not only was she upset about the town berating her husband to her but the fact that she really wishes he had died rather than come home in that way. If he had just been randomly injured it may have been different but it probably scared her a bit that he went to that extent to injure himself to get out of it and nobody is letting her live it down either.
Basically she was great for a few seconds and they did seem like they were in love. He was so happy to have found a way to make them more money and have the family they dreamed of that it made it all the sadder what he went through to try and come home (even if the seer was very misleading and caused all these problems) and Milah just couldn’t be happy to have him back. She seemed so disgusted when she handed him his son and walked off. She’s horrible now.
Who knows what she was like as a pirate but I’m kinda disgusted either Rumple or Hook ever loved her now that we know how rotten she is – I love both guys but their taste in women took 300 years to improve.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
February 18, 2013 at 7:45 am #173985theeviloneParticipantShe told the truth when she told Rumple she never loved him. I have seen those type of women all the time. She just wanted to be married and all that stuff, appearances. When you love someone you do feel disappointment but you are able to forgive. To immediately tell him he should have died proves this. So there you have it folks, yet again I hate her character and I am glad she died. Horrible women. 😀
February 18, 2013 at 1:55 pm #174041elleParticipantIt is hard to really say whether or not they were in love. I think the word I would use is content. We saw Rumpelstiltskin happy with her, but (for some reason) it didn’t feel passionate. It could be becuse most people only see Rumpelstiltskin with Belle, but I never really got love from Milah or Rumpelstiltskin when they were together–they seemed caring and content and happy with what they had. I wouldn’t call it love.
That said, Milah’s reaction to Rumpelstiltskin coming back was a bit much. It would have been nice to have seen how she was told the news or how she was treated by the other villagers. Instead, we get one scene with her asking Rumpelstiltskin not to wgo to war, but then supporting his choice, and the next scene, she is angry and spiteful and cruel to him.
I think a bit of what she cannot live with is the fact that he ran and the whole village knows it and won’t let him forget it. That was why she wanted to leave–she wanted to be away from it all. And I don’t fault her that. But leaving her son was horrible of her–especially without at least a goodbye. Or letting Rumpelstiltskin think she was kidnapped when she could have just told him or at least left a note.
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