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slurpeez108 wrote: I’m wondering if the way that PP talks to Rumple is how an older brother might speak to a much younger brother, especially if the father is absent from the picture, and the older brother takes care of the little brother.
I think Pan is probably doing and saying things that their father did. Dad probably used to call Rumple, “laddie” and dad is probably the one who used to make them breakfast, and always made sure the yolk in Rumple’s was runny, just the way he liked it. Peter’s probably always had a well done yolk, which he hated. Every morning he’d glare across the breakfast table at daddy’s favourite, precious little Rumple, with his runny yolk, and little Rumple wouldn’t even have to look across the table himself, he’d just feel his brother’s intense glare stabbing into him.
I love the idea of Pan acting like PapaStiltskin in order to get under Rumple’s skin! The more I read about TeamBrothers, the more I am coming around to the theory. Even more so though, the more I am finding all of these feels for Pan. Not unlike many of our other villains, the poor boy probably just wanted to be loved. And Rumple was getting in the way of the love by overshadowing him as a son. I am absolutely on board with Pan being the reason Rumple’s father disappeared. Whether it be because of jealousy or simply so Rumple would grow up the cowardly man he did and set all the motions in place for Henry to come to be. After all, you must have to plan a lot to get a man and a woman to have a child together when they are over 300 years apart in age.
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Even more so though, the more I am finding all of these feels for Pan. Not unlike many of our other villains, the poor boy probably just wanted to be loved
That will probably be his story but Robbie has done such a good job of playing him to be evil that I’m not sure I’ll ever have feels for him (except terror)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In the books, PP is thought to be part fairy, or a fairy child or something. I like the idea that PP is the illegitimate son of Blue Fairy, which is why she is so adamant about doing things her way. Being the child of BF awarded PP certain powers, which he developed in a very dark way.
PP could have been the original Dark One. BF said in “The Return” that Rumple’s magic didn’t belong in the Enchanted Forest. What if she banished her own son, PP, to Neverland for the same reason.
PP knew Rumple when Rumple was little because PP was training him to become the Dark One, but PP was banished before he could finish with Rumple. PP could have started the Dark One curse, knowing it would eventually be Rumple with the Dagger.
Rumple and PP both have weird daggers. They both have shadows they can detach and use to do their bidding.
I’m definitely thinking the Dark One Curse is an extension of PP’s powers, which is why Rumple will die if he kills PP. No Peter Pan, no more Dark One magic for Rumple.
Ooh I like it Pan14 !
I was thinking alternatively, what if Rumple’s mother died at his birth and their father could not handle raising both of the kids, so ran off. Pan felt his childhood ending early (like if he were 14) so he made a wish, and BF granted it, that he could be a child forever in NL. Then she took Rumple to the spinners. Yet the cost of that wish turned their father into the first Dark One.
It has a parallel to Hook being cared for by Liam, plus seems like something BF would do.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
I agree with Pan14. Also that could be the cliffhanger for episode 11, maybe they kill Pan and if Pan and the Dark Curse are connected, than that means no more dark curse for Rumple and that will be his undoing.
If the writers do this, I could definitely see this as a cliffhanger between Pan and Rumple. That would definitely be a cliffhanger, if Rumple survived without his dark curse.
If you know who I am, then you know who I am. - Rumple |
Wicked Sisters | Rumbelle | Outlaw Queen | Captain Swan | Scarlet Queen | Knalice | Team Adam & EddyPP asked Rumple, “Have you forgiven your father?” not family. If that’s the case, then I wager that PP is not Rumple’s daddy (complicated age issues aside), because that would be odd for PP to speak of himself in the third person.
Not necessarily. From Neverpedia’s article of Peter Pan (http://neverpedia.com/pan/Peter_Pan):
One other thing sort of dark thing that always stood out for him is where Barrie mentions that for Peter, unlike with other children, the notion that the world isn’t a fair place never sinks in. So every time he experiences something dishonorable, it hurts just as much as the first time – like when he goes to help up Hook on the cliff, who slashes him. The Schock, he will always forget and never learn and remember.
Also from the article, further down:
In Peter and Wendy it is explained that Peter must forget his own adventures and what he learns about the world in order to stay child-like.
My point? It’s classic Pan to forget all life experiences that’d otherwise bring character growth to him. The knowledge that he’s Rumple’s father, thus, may have simply been repressed from Peter’s memories when he was de-aged into a teenager.
In the books, PP is thought to be part fairy, or a fairy child or something. I like the idea that PP is the illegitimate son of Blue Fairy, which is why she is so adamant about doing things her way. Being the child of BF awarded PP certain powers, which he developed in a very dark way. PP could have been the original Dark One. BF said in “The Return” that Rumple’s magic didn’t belong in the Enchanted Forest. What if she banished her own son, PP, to Neverland for the same reason. PP knew Rumple when Rumple was little because PP was training him to become the Dark One, but PP was banished before he could finish with Rumple. PP could have started the Dark One curse, knowing it would eventually be Rumple with the Dagger. Rumple and PP both have weird daggers. They both have shadows they can detach and use to do their bidding. I’m definitely thinking the Dark One Curse is an extension of PP’s powers, which is why Rumple will die if he kills PP. No Peter Pan, no more Dark One magic for Rumple.
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"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICOnly read if you want to be seriously spoiled. There are several new spoiler images coming out of a climatic face-off between Peter Pan and Rumplestiltskin in 3×11. Rumple stabs Peter Pan with his dagger only for Peter Pan to be replaced by a middle-aged man who looks similar to the actor who’s been cast as Rumple’s father, Stephen Lord. Rumple then holds the man and hugs him, as if he regrets having just stabbed him. One possible conclusion is that Rumple’s father has been disguised as Peter Pan this entire time. When Rumple stabbed PP, he inadvertently stabbed and killed his own father.
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Oh, uhh, thought I might share this here. About Rump stabbing Pan with the dagger, Maybe the dagger works like athames in Charmed. It sucks out power. So when u stab the dark one with it, it transfers its power to the person who did the stabbing. Maybe Rump is TAKING Pans power and thus Pan is no longer youthful.
This particular type of athame, referred to as a Power-Sucking Athame, has the ability to absorb the powers of whomever is stabbed with it. The powers are stored within the blade until they are extracted. It is commonly used by Warlocks to kill witches and steal/store their powers
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC
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