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May 14, 2013 at 3:47 pm #194225RumplesGirlKeymaster
Re: the picture
We’ve seen one other important drawing in this show; the picture of the dagger August had. Did they come from the same person? I think we’re supposed to find out in S3 how August knew about Bae, and given that Bae was in NL it makes sense that the two are connected.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 14, 2013 at 4:06 pm #194233PheeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
Re: the picture
We’ve seen one other important drawing in this show; the picture of the dagger August had. Did they come from the same person? I think we’re supposed to find out in S3 how August knew about Bae, and given that Bae was in NL it makes sense that the two are connected.
Oh good point, I’d forgotten about that dagger drawing. Yet another point to ponder.
Hope MatthewPaul doesn’t mind me copying and pasting this post of his from the season 3 spoiler section, (the post isn’t spoilery, and the theory is awesome)…
@MatthewPaul wrote:Or, perhaps since Rumple had been abandoned by his father, he in turn became a lost boy and got abducted into Neverland himself. Peter thought Bae was the boy he wanted because of the resemblance to Henry, so the same could have happened with Henry’s Grandpa.
I like this because it puts Rumple into contact with PP in the pre-Bae days, and I’d been trying to figure out how they could have Rumple discover PP during his Dark One days without him running into Bae when he was in PP’s custody.
May 14, 2013 at 5:12 pm #194262kfchimeraParticipantSomeone had a theory that August was a lost boy and had met Neal in NL at some point during August’s saga, that NL was also Pleasure Island. I’m not entirely sure of that (timeline headaches) but maybe. That could explain how August had the picture of the dagger, and knew about Bae’s name, if he got them from PP. I’m still wondering how much August knew about the curse, and why he felt total separation was necessary between Bae and Emma. Maybe there’s more to August’s reverting to a boy then just a cheesy way to end off his story…(but I’m doubtful!).
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 14, 2013 at 5:42 pm #194275DemiletoParticipant@KFChimera wrote:
Someone had a theory that August was a lost boy and had met Neal in NL at some point during August’s saga, that NL was also Pleasure Island. I’m not entirely sure of that (timeline headaches) but maybe. That could explain how August had the picture of the dagger, and knew about Bae’s name, if he got them from PP. I’m still wondering how much August knew about the curse, and why he felt total separation was necessary between Bae and Emma.
That’d be me. Let’s face it, Pinocchio essentially became a Lost Boy after being taken by Stromboli and up until he meets Gepetto again inside Monstro. Also, Neverland is an island where children live a youthful life not controlled by grown ups, not unlike to the concept of Pleasure Island, and this take of Peter Pan could very well fulfill the role of both Lampwick and the Coachman. The parallels are just too solid for the show not to take this route.
@KFChimera wrote:
Maybe there’s more to August’s reverting to a boy then just a cheesy way to end off his story…(but I’m doubtful!).
Oh, there was! It allowed the Blue Fairy to find the solution for Belle and Sneezy’s memories! *cough*Deus Ex Machina*cough* 🙄
May 14, 2013 at 6:19 pm #194302karincaParticipantThanks Gypsy. I was thinking this exact same thing today. How did PP have a picture of Henry if not from Rumple’s vision. Now I could not figure out how Rumple would have got the picture to PP (and yes if you add timeline into this, it messes it all up). But I like what everyone is saying about Rumple being a lost boy pre dark one, but how does he get back to NL? Did he have the ability to move between magical worlds and it was just our non magical world that he could not travel to?
Love all the theories and posts on this one!May 14, 2013 at 6:47 pm #194319MatthewPaulModerator@KarinCA wrote:
Thanks Gypsy. I was thinking this exact same thing today. How did PP have a picture of Henry if not from Rumple’s vision. Now I could not figure out how Rumple would have got the picture to PP (and yes if you add timeline into this, it messes it all up). But I like what everyone is saying about Rumple being a lost boy pre dark one, but how does he get back to NL? Did he have the ability to move between magical worlds and it was just our non magical world that he could not travel to?
Love all the theories and posts on this one!Well if Bae and Hook were both able to escape Neverland, then I doubt they are the only ones who have done so. I have a theory that flying with the aid of pixie dust is the key to leaving. Keep in mind, we seemingly saw Wendy return on her own without the aid of the Shadow. I believe it’s been suggested that Neverland could be a bridge world with portals to other worlds, even one that links Neverland to A Land Without Magic.
May 14, 2013 at 9:48 pm #194380kfchimeraParticipantPixie Dust might be the key–but what is that stuff in NL? The original PP fairies are created from a baby’s first laugh, but this is a darker neverland. Are they created from children’s tears or something? And what might they then make fairy dust from! Maybe it is not the same as the FTL ones who mine diamonds (or rather have dwarfs do it for them, dwarfs who apparently lay eggs to breed. )
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
May 14, 2013 at 9:56 pm #194382darkones1fanParticipantHmm. Rumple and Peter. Well on the one hand Rumple has a tendency to create his own enemies as we have seen this entire series. But Peter Pan seemed to be pretty well established in Neverland by the Time Hook arrived which was seemed pretty early on in Rumple’s Dark One career. So ❓
May 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm #194391DemiletoParticipantI don’t think Rumple would do that kind of deal with Peter Pan. Peter was already this powerful, intimidating figure who controls an army only six or so months after he became the Dark One; Rumple’s certain to recognize an enemy of him the moment their eyes meet, and would you really share that kind of information to an enemy?
May 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm #194400gypsyParticipantNo, I don’t think Rumple would share the info that the boy in the pic was his undoing. He wouldn’t necessarily have had to divulge that info to make a deal to find him, though.
And, I don’t think The Dark One would be intimidated by a powerful advesary. He doesn’t seem like he’s afraid of very much.
I think he’d make a deal with anyone or anything if it got him what he wanted – enemy or no enemy. -
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