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Rumple had a deal with Peter Pan…???

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › General discussion and theories › Rumple had a deal with Peter Pan…???

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  • May 16, 2013 at 2:59 pm #194829
    gypsy
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    So, Peter encountered the seer at some point and she gave him the same message that she gave Rumple -that a boy would be his undoing also?
    And it’s the same boy that was prophecied to be The Dark One’s undoing?
    I still don’t get how Peter would know what Henry would have looked liked 300 years before Henry was born.

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    May 16, 2013 at 3:05 pm #194831
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    @Gypsy wrote:

    So, Peter encountered the seer at some point and she gave him the same message that she gave Rumple -that a boy would be his undoing also?
    And it’s the same boy that was prophecied to be The Dark One’s undoing?
    I still don’t get how Peter would know what Henry would have looked liked 300 years before Henry was born.

    I think the answer to your final question is a simple one (I think it needs to be for the sake of audience): prophecy. I believe Peter will have the gift of sight. Prophecy has already played a huge role in both seasons (Emma and then Henry) so it makes sense that it will appear in S3 as well.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 16, 2013 at 5:09 pm #194864
    gypsy
    Participant

    Maybe, at one point, they took the seer to NL (when she was little) and because of her ability, her eyes were removed.
    The eyes in her palms could have something to do with the shadow or Peter, himself.
    Shadows don’t have eyes, but this one has glowing eye sockets.
    Could the shadow and/or Peter have been able to see throught the eyes in the seers hands?
    And then possibly have been able to see visions that Rumple saw once Rumple took over the seer’s power?
    Could that be part of what makes ‘him’ “Someone we all should fear”?

    May 16, 2013 at 5:34 pm #194870
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    @Gypsy wrote:

    Maybe, at one point, they took the seer to NL (when she was little) and because of her ability, her eyes were removed.
    The eyes in her palms could have something to do with the shadow or Peter, himself.
    Shadows don’t have eyes, but this one has glowing eye sockets.
    Could the shadow and/or Peter have been able to see throught the eyes in the seers hands?
    And then possibly have been able to see visions that Rumple saw once Rumple took over the seer’s power?
    Could that be part of what makes ‘him’ “Someone we all should fear”?

    I like the idea of the eyes cause the Shadow’s eyes, man….I was freaked out about those things…
    It would be nice, if they are going to make PP a “seer” somehow, to connect him to the Seer in FTL.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 16, 2013 at 5:55 pm #194879
    gypsy
    Participant

    I was freaked out, too….and I don’t freak out easily!
    Unless I see a clown *shivers* 🙂

    May 16, 2013 at 6:00 pm #194882
    HappyEndings
    Spectator

    1) Question: Didn’t it seem weird that there was no one in the Duke’s castle when Rumble set the fire to get the dagger you think there still would have been someone standing guard of the Dagger to grab it in case something happen like the fire?

    2) Question: Maybe the Duke is the one who brought the Dagger to FL, maybe he is tied to NL (PP) ❓

    May 16, 2013 at 6:09 pm #194884
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    1) Yes you would think so, but I also think this is a case of “we only have 42 mins for this episode, and the most important aspect is getting Rumple to be the Dark One so somethings are going to need to be easier.” When you have time constraints like this, often times you need the audience to suspend their disbelief about what they know would occur in the real world. In the real world, yes their would have been a guard, several in fact. But here, it would have taken up too much time to have Rumple trying to get past the guards. I prefer to see it as fate: he was always supposed to be the Dark One, so Fate intervened and made sure it happened.

    2) Maybe? We know almost nothing about the Duke.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 24, 2013 at 1:20 pm #195936
    PanTheMan
    Participant

    In the episode Manhattan, Rumple’s deal with Emma is specifically to get Neal to talk to him – this makes me think that Rumple and Neal had seen each other at least once before they were first separated. Possibly in Neverland.

    I could see Bael/neal refusing to talk to Rumple when/if they met in Neverland. Rumple could be the reason that Bae/neal was able to escape Neverland.

    Hook and Bae could have left at the same time. Hook went to enchanted forest and got frozen in time with Cora, while Bae/Neal came to our world and met grew up and met Emma.

    May 24, 2013 at 1:22 pm #195938
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Hook and Bae could have left at the same time. Hook went to enchanted forest and got frozen in time with Cora, while Bae/Neal came to our world and met grew up and met Emma.

    Hook landed in FTL a few days before the Curse, which brought everyone to our world in 1983.
    We are pretty sure that Neal didn’t come to our world, again, until 1991. In Tallahassee his wanted certificate gives his birth date year as 1977. He landed here when he was fourteen. In order to say he was born in 1977 and be fourteen, he landed here in 1991.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm #195941
    Demileto
    Participant

    @Pan14 wrote:

    In the episode Manhattan, Rumple’s deal with Emma is specifically to get Neal to talk to him – this makes me think that Rumple and Neal had seen each other at least once before they were first separated. Possibly in Neverland.

    I could see Bael/neal refusing to talk to Rumple when/if they met in Neverland. Rumple could be the reason that Bae/neal was able to escape Neverland.

    Pretty sure Manhattan was intended to be the first time Rumple has seen his son in centuries. He wouldn’t need to build this curse to end all curses if he’d found Bae in Neverland.

    I wouldn’t rule out the other way around, though, since Neal said he has seen what Rumple did to people who breaks deals.

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