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January 22, 2013 at 8:59 pm #135786
maryrose d.
ParticipantAfter watching in the name of the brother we learn that at some point in their lives Rumple and Cora were together as a couple. I found it weird that Cora had to go to Rumple to ask him for her daughter because it seemed like he had no control over her. But now I think he did have some claim over her. Based on the true story of Rumplestilskin, the millers daughter had to give her first born to Rumple, but knowing the twists that Once puts on the stories I believe that Regina may have been Cora’s and Rumple’s daughter. I would I find this interesting considering Regina’s love for Henry sr. and his love for her. But I would find this to make sense about why he wanted the baby as well as why he chose to make her inact the curse. Rumple does have good in him but the child of the dark one could be really powerful, and Regina would be perfect for it so she could inact the curse. Also I just wanted to point something cool about Regina, her name means queen, just found that cool. Finally we knew that Cora was powerful so I have the feeling that Regina had something about her that Rumple wanted her to inact the curse.
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January 23, 2013 at 4:27 am #169661theevilone
ParticipantIf what was implied on “In the name of brother” is true and Regina does turn out to be Rumple’s daughter. I do not know how I personally would feel about Rumple. I have thought about it and it would explain a lot of things such as why he would become so mean to Regina when she would claim Henry to be her son and not Emma’s. Maybe it just hit a nerve with him. You know considering that if this is true, Henry Sr. claiming Regina as his own when Rumple was the real father.
@Maryrose D. wrote:
Rumple does have good in him but the child of the dark one could be really powerful, and Regina would be perfect for it so she could inact the curse.
Plus, think about what happened in the mid-season finally when Regina absorbed all the energy that Rumple himself claimed would kill anyone that came through the well. She didn’t die, could it be possible, if she is The Dark Ones daughter that she is immortal just like daddy? That would make her real powerful.
But again, the more I think about it, the more I start to get angry at Rumple. That means he corrupted his own daughter. Talk about having a favorite child, he spent 300 years looking for his son and in the process of achieving said goal he corrupted his daughter. Not only that but if anyone noticed, If Regina is his daughter he just gave her back to the witch who harmed her to begin with. If this is true that would make for a very interesting story, but has brought Rumple down a lot of points for me. He was my favorite character and ugh, you just don’t harm your own family, you do not leave family behind!!!! That would make him a true coward for me and yes, he needs to suffer for a while, he does not deserve Belle, he has to man up first and stop being coward. We all saw the face he made when he saw Cora, she actually made him flinch. I mean come on he couldn’t get rid of Cora from the beginning he had Regina push her through the looking glass instead. I don’t know I like the idea but I don’t like it at the same time. They have to tread lightly on this subject or this could be that dreaded moment when a show usually jumps the gun.
January 23, 2013 at 5:21 am #169665Josephine
ParticipantI truly think that if Regina is Rumple’s daughter then Rumple never knew about it. I can’t reconcile a man who spent three hundred years devising a way to be reunited with his son knowingly corrupting his own flesh and blood. That would mean sacrificing one child for the sake of the other. It just doesn’t add up and would be very bad writing if he knew all along. I’m not againt him being Regina’s father, I just think he never knew it.
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January 23, 2013 at 10:28 am #169684Phee
Participant@Josephine wrote:
I truly think that if Regina is Rumple’s daughter then Rumple never knew about it.
And I don’t see how he couldn’t have known if she was. Because if he’d been screwing around with Cora and suddenly she was pregnant, he’d have conducted some sort of magical paternity test to see if the kid was his. If it came back positive, there’s no way he’d have corrupted Regina the way he did. If it came back as a false negative, that means Cora outwitted him somehow, and I dunno that I’d buy that she’d have been able to do that at that point in time.
If he’d made a deal with Cora for her first born, and then proceeded to sleep with her, that means he was hoping the kid would end up being his, but if he just wanted a kid from her, why bother with the whole deal where she married Henry? Just cut out the middle man and promise Cora a bunch of gold in exchange for a kid, then get to the baby making.
January 23, 2013 at 4:55 pm #169729theevilone
ParticipantShouldn’t he be able to know if she is his daughter or not? I mean he is The Dark One he knew that Emma would be returning in 28 years. Then again he completely didn’t know Belle was alive all this time. If anything I think he woukd know but he might have thought that he was doing Regina good by teaching her magic. I mean lets face it magic is his lady love and he probably thought he was teaching Regina a way to be stronger since he did find her in her desperate situation when he finally met her. If anything getting her to do the curse could have been killing two birds with one stone. Regina could inact the curse keeping her with him getting her to kill Henry Sr. and giving his opportunity to find his son.
January 23, 2013 at 7:03 pm #169740tiara_rose
ParticipantI can imagine that Regina is Rumples daughter (not convince yet). The only thing is, that for me it is not possibile that he knows that she is his daughter. After all what we see about Rumple finding his son. There is no way that Rumple would do so much cruel things to her. If Regina was his daughter and he knew it. She wouldn’t enact the course with his help. He would not allow his child to take the heart of the person they love most. He would protect her from Cora. In his core Rumpelstiltskin is a loving father, not even the course of “The Dark One” could change that.
The problem with his power to see in the future is, that he sees as we know only glympses of would could happen. For example he knew that Snow White and Charmings daughter would break the course, but he didn’t know the name. I think there are enough loop holes that could allow the writers to take the path that Regina is his daughter without knowing, because the mother was Cora and she is very manipulative. She could trick him, make him believe that the child was Henry’s and not his.
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January 23, 2013 at 8:23 pm #169753PriceofMagic
ParticipantI don’t think Regina is Rumple’s daughter. Did Cora learn magic before or after she married Henry sr? Cora finds power very alluring, so it is possible that when she was younger and under Rumple’s teaching, Cora may have used her feminine wiles to try and get close to Rumple because he was the most powerful man in the land. The fact that Rumple swore not to love anybody else and considered himself a monster and unlovable suggests that he wouldn’t have gone so far as to sleep with Cora but may have enjoyed her attentions and even engaged in flirtatious games with her. He was trying to flirt with Regina in The Doctor when she was his apprentice then there was that other apprentice that he watched Regina kill. Rumple isn’t stupid, he knows that most women don’t want him but his power, hence why he had trouble believing that Belle could genuinely love him in Skin Deep. He would never let the likes of Cora get too close because he knows that she is only after power.
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Keeper of FelixJanuary 23, 2013 at 9:10 pm #169761theevilone
ParticipantWell she learned magic before marrying Henry Sr. at least that is what he told Regina. Yes Rumple did say that he would not love anything else but we are talking about a fling just a physical thing, you don’t need love for that. Even if Regina is not Rumple’s daughter, Cora probably did have a thing with Rumple because Regina did mention to Belle in The Outsider episode that she was sparing her the heartbreak because “others” had tried.
January 25, 2013 at 6:19 pm #169970snowred
ParticipantI def don’t think Regina is Rumples daughter. He just owns “the rights” to her per some deal made with Cora which most likely resulted from the original Rumplestilskin tale. He promised he’d spin gold for the young woman for her first born. (Unless she can guess his name) We all know how it ends but I’m sure Once writers gave it a whole new twist. Unfortunately everything that happened to Regina was because Rumple had a plan for her to cast the curse therefore he controlled her through Cora and now Cora wants the “rights” back since Rumple no longer has any use for her. The sad part is when Regina find out she’s just a puppet in all this and was completely used. 😥 Poor Regina. I have a feeling Cora will gladly share that info with her. I smell RAGE! 😮
January 26, 2013 at 3:25 am #170030theevilone
Participant@SnowRed wrote:
The sad part is when Regina find out she’s just a puppet in all this and was completely used. 😥 Poor Regina. I have a feeling Cora will gladly share that info with her. I smell RAGE!
I know I am actually pretty anxious about that because whatever friendly relationship they still had would be ruined and it could end in death! 🙁
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