Rumple searching for Henry

[Corbin]

We saw in this episode Rumple going to great lengths to find Henry, but I don’t think these are pure motives. I believe that, because of our Seer’s prophecy, he’s searching for Henry so he can finish him off himself. Sound off!

[Killian Jones]

I disagree, I think he genuinely wants to save his grandson to honor Bae (Who he thinks is dead). To see him so driven now for Henry is really cool to me. Something about his plan was just ridiculously awesome. He could have used the rest of the Jolly Roger crew but in his mind they would be killed. So instead he decides to head into the fire alone and kill as many of the Lost Boys as he can before he dies in an effort to save his grandson. He truly believes only he has the strength to accomplish this. It’s like he’s come full circle, he was a coward and chose himself over his son, but now he’s ready to give everything he can for his son’s memory and his grandson’s safety.

[tiara_rose]

I  think that Rumple does not know what he  will do. He only know that he have to find him, cause this is the last piece that left from his son. I think that it can go on both sides now. He want to find him and for the moment fullfill his prophecy cause he thinks that he is responsible for Bae’s death and the part that is still human wants to end his fault, but the part that is infected by the DrkOnes curse is still the coward that only want to survive and that means to kill his Undoing. Either way in his opinion he will loose and altough he his now the DarkerOne/Goldstiltskin, full in Cold revenge mode. He don’t want to be watched when his loosing will happens, so he leave the ship and teach Emma his last lesson that she has to believe in herself to find her son. She is not allowed to be a bail bond person who search only for the obvious. She also needs her instinct and accept her magic and to be the leader within her that she find her son. If something goes wrong she will be the only one powerful enough to stop him and make the happy ending possibile for the last bits that is still is left of Bae. Beneath all of his searching for Magic and fear of his death he remains still the poor spinner, who only want the best for his family and thinks that he is not able to give it. He thinks he will not achieve like and fail.

Heros don't get their Happy Ending!

[Phee]

Agreed with tiara_rose, I think he could still go either way at this point. I think that truly, he wants to do anything he can to save Henry. But at the same time, he’s probably gonna find it hard to give his life and his powers up.

In the promo for next week, we see him saying to Belle, “I let him keep Henry, he allows me to live.” I think that’s his conscience wrestling with itself, and part of what he’ll be considering is that if he does live, he may get to see Belle again, and while he’s in that confused mindset, that’s when a vision of her is conjured up.

[tiara_rose]

I hope that Bae takes the walking stick of Rumple with him to remind him of his good side and maybe when he see Henry doing to make a magical spell. He will see that Henry is not only the son of Bae but also his boy ( at the second line) as well.  I want some Grandpastiltskin time.

Heros don't get their Happy Ending!

[Phee]

Can’t remember who I saw mention this where, (think it was someone on tumblr), but when the BTS pics first came out, someone suggested that Neal will keep the walking stick with him, all the way to NL, and after Rumple’s undoing, he won’t be strong enough to walk, and Neal will give him back his old walking stick. I’ll totally cry if that happens. It would be a nice little scene to mirror the scene in 301 where Rumple drops his cane as he vanishes.

[RumplesGirl]

Can’t remember who I saw mention this where, (think it was someone on tumblr), but when the BTS pics first came out, someone suggested that Neal will keep the walking stick with him, all the way to NL, and after Rumple’s undoing, he won’t be strong enough to walk, and Neal will give him back his old walking stick. I’ll totally cry if that happens. It would be a nice little scene to mirror the scene in 301 where Rumple drops his cane as he vanishes.

I can’t handle this idea this early in the morning

I think Rumple is still torn over what to do. Right now his adrenaline is pumping and he’s on “mad papa” patrol and willing to do whatever it takes. But eventually anger gives way to grief and he may rethink some of his choices to go into attack mode. I think he’ll become conflicted once more.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

I agree Rumple is going to get very dark and conflicted. We’ve already seen him rip out Tamara’s heart after acknowledging she was just a pawn, and after she said she tried to help Henry to escape Pan. Too bad for her she was not a main character, because I guess we never even get her back-story now.

What I find about Rumple’s mindset is he often gets very tunnel vision about things. He could have asked Tamara about Neal, and had a few moments to know more of his son’s life, but he is not in the mood for remembering old moments.

Then we get that scene with Felix, and a doll is thrown to him and he breaks down weeping. I know there’s a story of his father ahead, but I am still thinking the doll has to do with Bae, or hoping it does. A counterpart to Neal finding the walking stick in a way.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[Keb]

Okay, we all knew Tamara was screwed…she cheated on/messed with the Dark One’s son and then shot him and tossed him through a portal. Rumple believes she killed him. I went to add the death/killing to my spreadsheet (oh yeah, you know I have one) and had to put “maybe” on the justified column…from his perspective, a guy who killed someone just for causing Bae to scrape his knees, it was more than justified. From ours, well, she was a jerk who did one single redeeming thing–telling Henry, the kid she kidnapped and delivered to Pan, to run. She killed the Dragon and tried darn hard to kill August and Neal. She’s Not Nice, she uses people, and her ignorance was by choice, as Henry pointed out; her plea for forgiveness was too little too late, though I think Rumple did have a flash of sympathy before he crushed her heart. Only for the fact that she was under Pan’s influence, of course, but it was there when he said he understood.

I do think that Rumple’s whole speech to Emma–and note that it WAS directed at Emma specifically–might have been his playing her as only Rumple can, giving her what she needed, inspiration and knowledge, to rescue Henry if he can’t (or maybe that’s his whole plan from the start). But while he’s generally better at controlling his emotions than, say, Regina, his responses are that much stronger when they come out, and anything to do with Bae or Belle can make him unpredictable even to himself.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[RumplesGirl]

I do think that Rumple’s whole speech to Emma–and note that it WAS directed at Emma specifically–might have been his playing her as only Rumple can, giving her what she needed, inspiration and knowledge, to rescue Henry if he can’t (or maybe that’s his whole plan from the start). But while he’s generally better at controlling his emotions than, say, Regina, his responses are that much stronger when they come out, and anything to do with Bae or Belle can make him unpredictable even to himself.

I think Rumple believes wholeheartedly in the power of Emma. I mean he ensured that she would be the Savior and that she would break the Curse and lead him to Bae. He has tons of faith in Emma, but unlike Snowing he can’t reassure her with hugs. So he does what he does: forces her to prove him wrong.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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