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Rumple managed to pull Excalibur from the stone and is now a hero. Were you surprised? Did you think he could do it? And now that he’s a hero by virtue of said sword pulling, can he stop Emma?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think that freeing Excalibur from the stone — the first step in the sword’s re-forging — needed not necessarily a hero but rather an injured soldier on the mend.
This might have something to do with Hook’s upcoming part in the process.
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Good point. Why are taking Head! Rumple at his word about what was needed to pull Excalibur?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think it was Emma who mentioned about what is needed to pull Excalibur not Rumple. Now whether or not she is lieing about it is something we have to considered. All around I was surprised that Rumple was able to pull the sword out of the stone, since I assumed it was going to be Henry. It makes since he isn’t the dark one, and he has the best chance of receiving redemption now that he isn’t cursed. Besides seeing how dark Emma has become does gives an insight to how difficult it must have been to try to control the darkness.
If Rumple drew the sword from the stone, shouldn’t it be his now? And does this mean that Camelot is now his?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If Rumple drew the sword from the stone, shouldn’t it be his now? And does this mean that Camelot is now his?
Why is that hilarious for me LOL Stiltskin, The Once And Future King
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As @Gaultheria says, we actually don’t know for sure what the pre-conditions of pulling the sword out of the stone are. For all we know, it has to be a white dude under 5’11 with great potential for total self-loathing. Sir Kay was clearly too confident.
Do we actually know that Excalibur is what we think it is/does what we think it does? Mostly the information is from Merlin, Arthur, Emma, and Clippit!Rumple. None of these are reliable narrators — even Merlin, who so far appears to be a good guy, clearly has his own agenda, and isn’t sharing it.
While we don’t know exactly what Merlin’s agenda is, I think he can be trusted. If he said not to pull out the sword or else bad things would happen, then Emma probably would’ve been better off leaving it alone.
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While don’t know exactly what Merlin’s agenda is, I think he can be trusted. If he said not to pull out the sword or else bad things would happen, then Emma probably would’ve been better off leaving it alone.
I agree with you that he can be trusted in principle, but I think Merlin is more of a “big picture” kind of guy. Bad things can happen, yes, but since he is someone who presumably can see the future, one could speculate that he can see the chain of events that will lead to a particular result — the morality and/or nature of the concrete steps that lead there would be less relevant to him than the bottom line. Doesn’t his dialogue say something like “when you do something you’re not supposed to do, even for the right reasons, bad things happen”? In context, it seems to be about the sword. But it tells us nothing about what the sword is, or why it leads to bad consequences.
I am assuming the bad consequence is that it’ll somehow release all previous Dark Ones and other assorted baddies into SB — it’ll literally bust open the gates of hell. Considering SB these days, I’m not sure that the villains’ new place of residence will be that much of an improvement. How the show will tie this back to Camelot, I have zero clue.
Rumple managed to pull Excalibur from the stone and is now a hero. Were you surprised? Did you think he could do it? And now that he’s a hero by virtue of said sword pulling, can he stop Emma?
I wasn’t surprised that Gold was able to remove the sword from the stone. Emma did say that Mr. Gold was the only one who could get her that sword. She said his heart is now a blank slate, making him not just any hero, but the purest hero who has ever lived. Emma also compared Gold to a dull knife sitting in a drawer. Now that he’s been sharpened, I think he does pose a real threat to the dark one. Even though he lacks magical ability, he still has centuries’ worth of knowledge and experience of living as the dark one. Gold said he knows Emma better than she knows herself, so I think he’ll be able to predict and uncover Emma’s plot.
In context, it seems to be about the sword. But it tells us nothing about what the sword is, or why it leads to bad consequences.
I agree that Merlin’s warning doesn’t tell us the answer to the why question. (I am a bit surprised that Gold didn’t know more about why Emma wanted Excalibur, seeing how he was the dark one for centuries). Reading between the lines, perhaps Merlin’s warning has something to do with Excalibur’s origin and with Nimue. Merlin said that the dark one had destroyed the one woman he’d ever loved, leading many to think the woman Merlin loved is the first dark one. Yet, Merlin also said in 5×6 that Nimue is the only person who could help them defeat the darkness. We also have what the apprentice said about Merlin and the dagger in 4×22 about the sorcerer tethering the darkness to a human soul via the dagger, which we know was once part of Excalibur. Now we just need to know who forged Excalibur. I guess we’ll find out more next week.
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