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May 27, 2012 at 9:55 pm #147873PriceofMagicParticipant
Desperate souls has been missed out.
Going back to 7:15 am, when Rumpel is talking to Snow, it is interesting how he describes love. After Snow says “a broken heart”, Rumpel describes it as “the most painful of afflictions” and he also says “Love makes us sick, haunts our dreams, destroys our days. Love has killed more than any disease.” I can’t help but feel that he is talking about himself and Belle here. This could also tie into the finale. If Belle had been haunting Rumpel’s dreams then when she walked into the shop, he may have thought he was dreaming hence why he grabbed her shoulder to see if she was real.
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Keeper of FelixMay 28, 2012 at 4:10 am #147906darcyfarrowParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
Desperate souls has been missed out.
Yes, I skipped it in the hope that, because it’s so well-loved, someone else would want to write the entry for it. I’m hoping this compendium will become a group effort. If no one offers to adopt “Desperate Souls” in the near future, I’ll write the entry.
I’ll also hold off on writing up “Skin Deep” in case anyone would like to claim it.
May 28, 2012 at 8:45 am #147934darcyfarrowParticipantDreamy
In SB, Mother Superior chews Astrid out for a clerical error: “You know how he feels about us.” Astrid tells Leroy that Gold is the convent’s landlord and “if we miss a payment we’re out.”
In FTL, the dwarves encounter Belle in a tavern: she points out that Dreamy’s in love; she knows love when she sees it. “Love is hope; it fuels our dreams. . . love doesn’t always last forever. . . I’ve had my heart broken enough to know when somebody’s reaching out.”
Back in SB, Leroy tries to sell his boat to Gold. Gold seems to be willng to bargain until he hears the money will benefit the nuns. He argues that the rental agreement is specific and permits him to evict upon failure to make a single payment. He calls the nuns “distasteful tenants” and says, “I have a long, complicated history with them.”May 29, 2012 at 8:46 pm #148024PriceofMagicParticipantI’ll take on desperate souls.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMay 29, 2012 at 10:16 pm #148026darcyfarrowParticipantThank you, PriceofMagic.
May 30, 2012 at 8:59 pm #148090darcyfarrowParticipantHeart of Darkness
In SB, Gold comes to the jail, offering to serve as MM’s attorney. When Emma asks if he’s a lawyer, in typical Gold fashion he answers with another question (“Ever wonder why I’m so adept at contracts?”). He cites as proof of his ability the fact that he “nearly beat a man to death” and claims he persuaded the judge to drop the charges [Is this a lie? An upcoming episode will suggest it was Regina who got the charges dropped.] Gold and Emma get into a small debate about ethics, with Emma saying an investigation is the best approach, so that MM’s name can be cleared, but Gold takes the position of the end justifying the means–if he can get MM’s charges dropped by means of influence, that’s just as good as getting them dropped by presentation of evidence. MM decides to try both: she asks Emma to proceed with the investigation while Gold comes on as MM’s counsel (“practical help”). Gold urges, “Trust me” but Emma openly indicates she doesn’t. Gold merely smiles. MM challenges Gold by saying she can’t pay him; he seems insulted (“I didn’t ask for money.”) He will take the case because he’s “invested in [her] future.”In FTL, a rather distracted Snow and a frustrated Grumpy come to Rumple’s castle. He seems more subdued, less giggly and showy, than we’ve seen him before. Rumple explains why Snow’s been cranky: the potion he gave her “took away her love, left a big hole in her heart. There is no cure for what she’s got. . . No potion can bring back true love. Love is the most powerful magic of all, the only magic I haven’t been able to bottle. If you can bottle love, you can do anything.”
He then turns to Snow: “What is it that you really want?” When she says she wants help to kill the queen, he is satisfied: “Now we’re talkin’, dearie.” He strings a bow and presents it to her: “This is how you kill the queen.” He strategizes the attack. “An arrow fired from this bow will do exactly what you need. It always finds its target.” Snow asks his price: “Everything comes with a price with you.” His answer is “Let’s just say I’m invested in your future.”
In FTL, Charming bursts into the Dark Castle, shouting for Rumple, who pops up and puts in a dig about Charming not being a prince any more. “You ran away from the life I gave you. How’s that for gratitude?” He cautions Charming to be careful of King George’s wrath. Upon learning that Snow came to Rumple for help, Charming threatens Rumple with a sword, which Rumple slaps away. It’s Charming’s fault that Snow drank the potion, Rumple points out. But the magic can be broken with “twu wuv.” Rumple then makes a deal: info on Snow’s whereabouts in exchange for Charming’s cloak (because “it’s drafty in here”). It’s interesting that Charming (along with Snow, earlier) is one of the few people to show any curiosity about the objects Rumple wants.
Rumple cautions, “If she kills the queen, she becomes as evil as the woman whose life she takes.” Charming denies that; Rumple instructs, “Evil isn’t born, dearie, it’s made.” As Charming leaves, Rumple takes up the cloak and sniffs it.
In the forest, Snow shoots an arrow at the queen but hits Charming. The arrow’s found its target; Snow remembers her love. And she’s avoided becoming evil, since her arrow didn’t kill the queen.
In SB, Emma storms into the pawnshop and asks for help with MM’s case. Emma’s sure that Regina is framing MM: so is Gold. He greets with request for help with mock surprise; she says he’s the only one who can beat Regina. Gold counters, “You don’t exactly approve of my methods” but Emma is willing now to let him do whatever it takes to free MM. “Now we’re talking,” he says, echoing his own words to her mother back in FTL. “Regina may be powerful, but something tells me you may be more powerful than you know.”
In FTL, Rumple uses a magnifying glass to extract hair from Charming’s cloak. He places the hair in a bottle, along with Snow’s hair, and magic happens. He coos in admiration of his creation.
June 1, 2012 at 7:33 pm #148180PriceofMagicParticipantDesperate Souls
Start off in fairytale land with Rumpelstiltskin in his house spinning at his spinning wheel. Baelfire comes rushing in and tells him that soldiers have come for Morraine. Rumpel moves pretty quick for a guy with a limp and he and Baelfire rush outside to see the soldiers taking Morraine. Rumpel holds Bae close as they realise the age of enlistment has been lowered again to fourteen and Bae turns fourteen in three days time. Bae seems frightened in this scene and Rumpel is trying to comfort him. He tells Bae “we’ll find a way” though it seems he is unsure of how he will actually achieve that. On a side note Bae seems younger in this than he does in The Return.
Cuts to Mr Gold in his shop with the lanolin. When Emma calls out his name he smirks. When Emma asks if he is there, he displays his sarcastic sense of humour “well it is my shop”. Gold offers his condolences to Emma over Graham’s death and then suggests that since it has been two weeks since Graham’s death, she automatically becomes sheriff. Gold then offers Emma Graham’s belongings as “a keepsake”. When Emma declines, Gold casually says that he’ll offer them to Regina instead. Emma is drawn back in and, although still reluctant, she eventually accepts the walkie talkies. Gold says some stuff about children growing up so fast, time together is precious, before you know it you lose them, and although it seems like he is referring to Emma and Henry, he is actually referring to himself and Bae.
The next time we see Gold is at Emma’s house where he brings round the town charter and offers to be Emma’s benefactor and you get the feeling he enjoys being a thorn in Regina’s side.
We switch back to fairytale land where Rumpel tries to run with Bae. Bae says “it feels wrong to run away” to which Rumpel replies “it’s worse to die son”. This could provide a little insight into why Rumpel ran from the war especially as the rest of his comrades died, maybe even horrifically, and Rumpel didn’t want to suffer the same fate. Rumpel and Bae then meet the dark one disguised as the beggar. (Anyone else think the dark one was lying in wait for Rumpel? If being able to tell the future is one of the dark one’s powers, then he knew Rumpel would try and run and manipulated him into becoming the new dark one from the word go.) Hordor and the other soldiers arrive. Rumpel tries to lie his way out of trouble until Bae shoots his mouth off and makes the situation worse; even Rumpel was trying to tell him to shut up. Hordor takes great delight in revealing that Rumpel ran from the war and that his wife left him because of it. He then humiliates Rumpel in front of Bae. The soldiers leave and the dark one helps Rumpel back to his house, though in hindsight you can see the dark one is setting Rumpel up for a fall.
Rumpel and the beggar are discussing what Rumpel’s going to do whilst Bae sleeps. Rumpel believes his situation is hopeless and that he’ll have no choice but to let Bae go to war. The beggar says that “everyone has a choice” but Rumpel replies that the only choice he has is “which corner to hide in”. Rumpel breaks down and it is at this point, the beggar suggests taking the dark one’s dagger to either control the dark one or take the dark one’s power after telling Rumpel to “get a hold of yourself”.
We switch back to Mr Gold in his shop, looking deep into the flame of a lighter when Regina walks in. Gold knows why Regina is there and asks her “shall I move some things, make a bit of space for your rage?” Regina knows it was Rumpel who pointed out to Emma the loophole in the town charter and she comments that he loves to “trifle with technicalities”. Mr Gold baits Regina some more.
G: Shame what happened to Graham.
R: Don’t talk about him. You know nothing.
G: What is there to know? He died.
R: Are you really going up against me?
G: Not directly. We are, after all, both invested in the common good. We’re just picking different sides.
R: Well I think you picked a really slow horse this time. It’s not like you to back a loser.
G: She hasn’t lost yet.
R: She will.
G: Never underestimate someone who’s acting for their child.
R: He’s not her child! Not legally.
G: Now who’s trifling with technicalities?
Some interesting questions are raised from Gold’s conversation with Regina. Does Gold either know or suspect that Regina was involved in Graham’s death? Gold mentions they’re both invested in “the common good”, what do the two of them class as “the common good”? Regina say Gold picked “a really slow horse THIS time” and it wasn’t like him “to back a loser”, of course Emma won but what does Regina mean by “this time”?We cut back to fairytale land where Rumpel is getting Bae to soak the sheep’s wool so they can set fire to it. He tells Bae what the beggar told him. Bae suggests that perhaps he should go and fight since that is what the law says. Rumpel is taken aback and tells him that “the law doesn’t want you to fight. The law wants you to die”. It is possible Bae suggested going to fight because he didn’t want Rumpel to get hurt by going through with his plan. Rumpel makes a comment about war that makes Bae realise Hordor was telling the truth about Rumpel running away. (I get the feeling Rumpel had told Bae an alternate version of events). Bae asks if what Hordor had said about his mother was true as well because Rumpel had told him she was dead. Rumpel takes a long time to reply before admitting “she is dead” very quietly. (Perhaps Rumpel’s wife committed suicide because she couldn’t bear to be married to a coward and everyone else thought she had left him. Rumpel told Bae the truth by saying his mother was dead but left out the details of how she died because he felt her death was his fault.) There is a tense awkward silence between Bae and Rumpel before Bae breaks it by asking “so what do we need to do?” Bae then seems to reluctantly go along with Rumpel’s plan.
We’re back in Storybrooke and Emma has just saved Regina from the fire. She notices a piece of what looks like rope and suspects Gold started the fire. She goes to his shop to confront him and Gold tries to deny it at first. Emma is unconvinced so Gold practically admits it without actually admitting it by saying “IF I did it……” He then gives the reasons as to why he might have done it and challenges Emma to expose him, informing her of why doing so might not be in her best interest.
Back to fairytale land and Rumpel and Bae set fire to the castle. As it burns, Rumpel heads inside and gets the dagger.
Back to Storybrooke, and the town are taking their seats for the debate. Gold enters and Emma is not pleased to see him.
Fairytale land, Bae is waiting for Rumpel’s return. Bae tells Rumpel he has “a bad feeling” about what Rumpel is about to do. Rumpel ignores him and sends him home then summons the dark one. Rumpel initially thinks it hasn’t worked and seems to turn round ready to go home before being startled by the dark one who was stood right behind him. The dark one basically tells Rumpel that he is at his command and warns him to “wield the power wisely”. When Rumpel hesitates, the dark one says to him “you can wield it anytime now” in an I haven’t got all night kind of way. The dark one then begins to push Rumpel’s buttons by telling him that it was almost dawn and that Hordor and the others were on their way to take Bae away. The dark one manipulates Rumpel further by questioning whether Bae is biologically Rumpel’s son. This angers Rumpel who stabs the dark one which is what the dark one intended. When Rumpel asks “why me?” the dark one tells him that he knows “how to recognise a desperate soul”. Rumpel then becomes the new dark one.
Back to Storybrooke and the debate has begun. During Emma’s speech, she tells the town that Mr Gold started the fire. Gold gets up and walks out of the debate.
Last visit to fairytale land, Hordor and his soldiers have come to take Bae away. Rumpel gets his revenge on the group by killing them all. Bae is frightened of what his father has become. Rumpel tells him that “I protected what belongs to me and I’m not scared of anything!”
Last visit to Storybrooke, Emma is moving into her new sheriff’s office. Gold appears and startles her. He reveals that everything that happened from the fire onwards was his plan all along. He echoes the previous dark one’s words “I know how to recognise a desperate soul”. Emma questions why he did it, and Gold mentions that she still owes him a favour and that now that she’s sheriff, he’s sure “we’ll find some way to pay back what you owe me” Gold then leaves with one last word of “congratulations”.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixJune 3, 2012 at 3:00 am #148240darcyfarrowParticipantHat Trick
In SB, Gold and Emma arrive at the sheriff’s office. Henry is waiting there; he congratulates Emma on her “genius plan,” but when Gold asks what he means, Henry realizes he misunderstood the situation: he had assumed Gold, as MM’s attorney, was now part of Operation Cobra, but now he realizes that since Gold wasn’t in on the “plan,” he must not be a trusted confidant. Gold takes Henry’s rejection with good humor and continues into the office, granting Henry and Emma privacy, but a moment later Gold calls for Emma to come. The cell is open, MM is gone, and Gold points out that if she’s not back in time for her arraignment tomorrow, both she and Emma will be in big trouble.Next day, when Regina shows up at the sheriff’s office, Emma, MM, and Gold are waiting. Gold escorts Regina out. In a private conversation, it’s revealed that MM’s escape was a set-up, planned by Gold and Regina. Regina thinks Gold failed to carry out his end of the deal, but Gold assures her, “Results you shall have.”
June 9, 2012 at 2:38 am #148497darcyfarrowParticipantStable Boy
Gold comes to Regina’s office to ask “a favor,” but it becomes a deal instead: in return for her exerting her influence to get the battery charges against him dropped, he will help with her “Mary Margaret problem.” He says ominously, “If you want to inflict pain, you must inflict pain. ” He suggests causing “something tragic” to happen to Kathryn, with MM being framed for it. But there need not be a trial; a jailbreak could be arranged, with something unnamed happening to the fugitive. Regina has doubts about Gold ‘s trustworthiness, but he assures her, “I always honor my agreements.”
Later, Gold asks MM to agree to an interview with the DA. Emma is skeptical, but Gold says the interview will establish an image of innocence for MM. “Our most valuable asset,” he says, is public opinion; “perception is everything…not only in the courtroom but in life.” MM no sooner agrees than the DA shows up. He begins to drill her as Gold listens. Gold interrupts when the questions lead MM into what on the surface seems to be a confession. MM ignores Gold’s advice; Gold rolls his eyes.MM is hauled off in handcuffs as Emma and Gold stand by. Emma wheels on Gold, but he asks her patience and trust: “You must have faith. There is still time …for me to work a liitle magic. “June 10, 2012 at 6:39 pm #148499darcyfarrowParticipantThe Return
August and Henry meet outside the pawnshop to launch their plan: Henry will distract Gold while August sneaks in through the back and searches the workroom. Henry and Gold mirror each other (hands in pockets) as they greet each other. Henry proceeds to purchase a gift for MM. He concldes too quickly, however, and Gold catches August, redirects him when August pretends to be mixed up. Gold watches intently as August leaves (an interesting sidenote: August claims to be a map collector–Jefferson gave Emma much the same claim in the previous episode) .
Later in the pawnshop, Regina comes in for a fight, accusing Gold of breaking their deal to frame MM. In a low voice, Gold answers that he’s only broken one deal in his life. He delivered what he had agreed to: he made “something tragic” happen to Kathryn. Regina had assumed incorrectly that he had planned to kill Kathryn. A foreshadowing line: “Murder seems so much worse here, doesn’t it? ” Gold quips. “You can’t just turn someone into a snail and then step on them.” (Interesting word choice: he says “worse, ” implying a moral aspect, not “more difficult.” Has he gained some ethics since his early days as the Dark One?
During this discussion, he is holding a leather ball, which he eventually places on display.
When Regina tries to argue he cuts her off with the power “please.” She drops that argument immediately but frets that her part in the frame up will be discovered. She claims that Gold, as the creator of the curse, is equally culpable (she says that Gold created the curse for her–we will find out otherwise.) He quips again, “It’s about time you said thank you.” When she wants to know his motives, he refuses to answer. -
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