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On the other hand, B&B is a really popular Disney cartoon, and A&E might not want to disappoint fan-girls of the Rumple and Belle pairing. So maybe the writers could find a way to wrap up Rumple’s story without necessarily killing him off, and instead write him as having his curse undone by TLK and then packing him off to A Land Without Magic so as to avoid the temptation that magic in SB has to offer. Maybe Rumple’s happy ending could simply be starting over again away from all the crazy once his dark one curse is broken.
Honestly if that were to happen, I could see Belle leaving the show too. If they decide to go back and make Rumbelle endgame, but Rumple leaves Storybrooke, then Belle would surely leave with him.
[adrotate group="5"]So Bobby has two potential means of leaving the show:
1. Death. He’s stabbed, cleaved, his curse is removed one of various methods and he dies. Like I’ve posted elsewhere, the relationship of Will/Belle will allow Belle to continue on the show and move on with another relationship.
2. Rumbelle gets their B&tB ending. I could see that, too, but IMO less likely. If the writers are feeling charitable, they give us the B&TB TLK, they go over the line off into the sunset to travel around the world like Belle wants out of life and Rumple is away from the temptation of magic. (Hope he has some spun gold stockpiled somewhere to finance it.)
Both methods actually allow him to come back in flashbacks as his impish Rumple from the EF in flashbacks next year on a temporary basis.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
On the other hand, B&B is a really popular Disney cartoon, and A&E might not want to disappoint fan-girls of the Rumple and Belle pairing. So maybe the writers could find a way to wrap up Rumple’s story without necessarily killing him off, and instead write him as having his curse undone by TLK and then packing him off to A Land Without Magic so as to avoid the temptation that magic in SB has to offer. Maybe Rumple’s happy ending could simply be starting over again away from all the crazy once his dark one curse is broken.
Honestly if that were to happen, I could see Belle leaving the show too. If they decide to go back and make Rumbelle endgame, but Rumple leaves Storybrooke, then Belle would surely leave with him.
Would she? At this point, I’m not sure. Does curse-sacrifice negate everything he did to her? This is the biggest issue I have–nothing he does is going to change the fact that he did some truly appalling things to her. And for her to say, “it’s all good now because you’ve done X…” rings highly unsatisfactory. I mean, he sacrificed himself (his acutal life!) once and then went straight back to villainy. And YES, I am aware of the extenuating circumstances. Everyone and their brother–apart from A and E–get the emotional journey behind it. But that’s not how A and E have chosen to present it. It has nothing to do with the–what did I call it?–giant Neal-shaped elephant in the room. Had they done it that way, made it about a father who’s soul has been crushed by the loss of his only child? My god, I’d still be a Rumple fan because THAT would feel like Rumple. But as it stands, he’s just evil and power hungry with no nuance and no humanity.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"On the other hand, B&B is a really popular Disney cartoon, and A&E might not want to disappoint fan-girls of the Rumple and Belle pairing. So maybe the writers could find a way to wrap up Rumple’s story without necessarily killing him off, and instead write him as having his curse undone by TLK
This actually reminds me of Beauty and the Beast. Rumple never really dropped the Beast. Maybe Rumple finally losing the Dark Curse could reintroduce that story.
As far as Belle leaving Storybrooke, it would be a shame if they didn’t develop Belle’s character further. I had hopes when they introduced the mystery of her mother and her relationship(?) with Will
After 416, I am even more convinced Rumple is dying.
His whole speech to Belle in the shop was one big “Rumple is going to die” foreshadow.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"In 4×16, Rumple said that all magic comes at a price, and that he has so much debt he could never hope to repay. It sounds to me like the consequence might be losing his humanity, and that what concerns him is changing the rules of magic so that he’s no longer indebted or weighed down by the cost of his dark one curse.
In 4×12, Rumple said he wanted to survive for his happy ending. His son was his happy ending. It just is so confusing now exactly what Rumple’s happy ending now looks like since (1) his son died and (2) his marriage is effectively over. It sounds to me that Rumple’s idea of a happy ending now is to be free of the high cost of magic without actually losing his magic.
There was a deleted scene from 4×2 in which Rumple and Henry had a talk. The reason it was cut was because it contained too may spoilers for the rest of the season, such as Henry’s lineage potentially making him the next Author or Rumple’s potentially dying. What I liked about it was it revealed Rumple’s mindset.
Rumple: The truth is memories are more often bad than good. We make mistakes throughout our lives. There’s no avoiding them. And they’re woven into a heavy cloak of regret that we wear until we die. Believe me, mine is heavier than most. But it’s bearing it that makes you learn, makes you strong.
Henry: Have you learned?
Rumple: It’s a gradual process.Rumple must’ve known for some time that things are changing with regards to his health or immortality. He said his mistakes are “woven into a heavy cloak of regret until we die.” I think Rumple knew even then that the price of his dark magic would eventually catch up with him and perhaps, result in his death, which is why he attempted to cleave himself from the dagger via the sorcerer’s hat. Yet that failed, because according to Rumple, the odds are staked against the villains.
Rumple has led the witches to believe that they need to darken Emma’s heart so that the villains get their happy ending. But I doubt Rumple really cares about the other villains getting their happy endings, since the only happy ending Rumple is really concerned with is his own. I now think his goal is to survive, rather than to die, by making it so that he doesn’t have to pay the price of dark magic. He wants the Author to change the laws of magic so that the dark one doesn’t have to pay the price of dark magic.
To do this, I think Rumple needs the literal heart of the savior, which I predict is gold in color, like Henry’s. I think Rumple wants to drive the darkness of his heart into Emma’s literal heart, just like the Apprentice drove Emma’s potential for darkness into Lily. Rumple wants to transfer his own darkness into Emma’s pure heart so that she, rather than he, must pay the price of his dark magic.
Remember how Peter Pan led Henry to believe magic in Neverland was dying and that only Henry could save it? Yet what Pan ultimately wanted was Henry’s heart to save himself. What if Rumple wants Emma’s heart to save himself the way Peter Pan wanted Henry’s heart of the truest believer? Perhaps Emma’s heart is the key ingredient Rumple needs to pay the price of magic without actually losing his magic.
I do think the chances of Rumple dying are increasing with every episode that passes. However, I think what Rumple really wants is live forever without being weighed down by the heavy cloak of his dark magic. What he needs is Emma’s literal heart, which is full of magic. While Rumple might succeed temporarily, like Pan did, I think his goal won’t be successful long term and that he will end up dying to pay the price of his dark magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I think Rumple wants to drive the darkness of his heart into Emma’s literal heart, just like the Apprentice drove Emma’s potential for darkness into Lily. Rumple wants to transfer his own darkness into Emma’s pure heart so that she, rather than he, must pay the price of his dark magic.
I think that’s rather genius
What he needs is Emma’s literal heart, which is full of magic. While Rumple might succeed temporarily, like Pan did, but I think his goal won’t be successful long term and that he will end up dying to pay the price of his dark magic.
I accept this headcanon.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Slurpeez, that’s interesting. I do wonder though what the “price” of magic is. I mean, is it simply mortality? Because if so, then then entire premise with Zoso makes very little sense to me. So Zoso tricks Rumple into killing him, as I think RG mentioned somewhere on this forum, but the rationale behind it is actually kind of unclear. So I went back to look at the dialogue, and here’s their conversation once Rumple stabs Zoso:
Zoso: Looks like you made a deal you didn’t understand. I don’t think you’re going to do that again.
Rumpelstiltskin: You told me to kill you.
Zoso: My life was such a burden. You’ll see. Magic always comes with a price and now, it’s yours to pay.
Rumpelstiltskin: Why me? Why me?
Zoso: I know how to recognize a desperate soul.
In other words, if the DO has an expiration date, why did Zoso go to such lengths to get Rumple to kill him? If Zoso thinks that the Duke who controls him is dumb as a stump, then why is he being controlled by him? Zoso could have tricked him and gotten the dagger for himself, presumably? And if not, why not? Now, more to the point of the dialogue, if Zoso’s life is such a burden because magic comes at a price, why is it now Rumple who is going to pay that price (i.e. Zoso’s debt) by becoming the DO? Essentially, why is Zoso saying that he got off scott-free and transferred his “debt” to Rumple by dying? Doesn’t this imply that there’s something about the DO curse that’s a fate worse than death? Otherwise that entire dialogue makes very little sense. Just my 2cents…
Zoso: My life was such a burden. You’ll see. Magic always comes with a price and now, it’s yours to pay.
Compare THAT to THIS from Rumple in 416
And I have racked up so much debt I can never be clear of it…unless I find a way to change the rules
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Rumple is losing his humanity. He lost his son, who was the only thing keeping him human, according to the Blue Fairy. Rumple’s darkness is threatening to overwhelm him now. Rumple the man risks being lost forever as the dark one consumes him. In Rumple’s mind, his only hope seems to be transferring his darkness to another host, but he would have to die for that to happen. So, he’s trying to change the rules of magic so he can transfer his darkness to another pure host (i.e. Emma) yet still keep his magic. He wants all the magic but without the price. He still is unwilling of letting go of the power via TLK, so he keeps resorting to dark and dangerous tactics like the sorcerer’s hat. He still thinks he can have everything (i.e. power without limit or consequence). This is why Rumple’s effort is ultimately doomed to fail. I think Rumple will be undone by his grandson, who’ll correct whatever measure Rumple takes. Henry will be the next Author and ultimately fulfill the prophesy of being his grandfather’s ultimate undoing.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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