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And yet Zelena’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403.
Side effect of the glamour spell? If the spell could change her outside appearance, why not her innards?
[adrotate group="5"]So Rumple’s blood is coagulating now in NYC? Why didn’t his blood thicken as a result of his darkness the last time he visited Manhattan? Suddenly, his dark one deeds are so much worse than they were 2 seasons ago? I don’t think so. He’s always been the dark one ever since Zoso tricked him. It doesn’t make sense that upon stepping foot back into ALWM Rumple would suddenly have a heart attack when he showed no signs of heart failure the last time he was in NY. (I mean up until Hook poisoned him, but that was an external ailment owing to poison, not debt from using dark magic).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Magic has made Rumple’s blood thick and goopy; only with the elixer can he be healed. But how long wlll the potion last? And how about the other villains–Regina and Hook–do they have the same condition?
So perhaps there is another way for the Dark One to die afterall.
I mentioned this as another way to die on this board a few weeks ago…..that it was possible for Rumple’s heart to be the death of him.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
Uh, question. Why did Rumple need the potion in the past?
Because they needed a magical plot device in the future.
And yet Zelena’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403.
Regina’s heart was mostly red in the scene where she gives Robin her heart in 3B. Like people have mentioned previously, there is a difference between doing dark magic for 50-60 years and 300 years.
So Rumple’s blood is coagulating now in NYC? Why didn’t his blood thicken as a result of his darkness the last time he visited Manhattan? Suddenly, his dark one deeds are so much worse than they were 2 seasons ago? I don’t think so. He’s always been the dark one ever since Zoso tricked him. It doesn’t make sense that upon stepping foot back into ALWM Rumple would suddenly have a heart attack when he showed no signs of heart failure the last time he was in NY. (I mean up until Hook poisoned him, but that was an external ailment owing to poison, not debt from using dark magic).
Good question.
Uh, question. Why did Rumple need the potion in the past?
Because they needed a magical plot device in the future.
Yeah that’s what I thought
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Uh, question. Why did Rumple need the potion in the past?
Firstly, my thought is that Rumple, being Rumple, always played the game 10 steps ahead and as the had “the sight” knew that he would need the potion in the future … he was just trying to get his ducks in a row and have the potion in his vault. Secondly, he probably was also testing Robin, again, putting his ducks in a row, he would know how Robin ticks so he could manuplate him later. Thirdly, at this point, we may not be sure if Rumple was doing it for reasons 1 and/or 2 or if he was being manipulated by the Author in order to make a better story; that is we may not really know if what are characters do in the EF is driven by their own motivations or by the Author.
Here are some other questions and potential plot holes to consider about dark one mythology. Rumple said he’d used magic back in SB to keep his blood from thickening. How long has this affliction of coagulating blood been affecting him? Is this a medical condition that affected him in the Enchanted Forest? Have previous dark ones also faced this condition, and if so, why didn’t Zoso let nature take its course and let his thick blood kill him, rather than tricking Rumple into being the next dark one? And if the thickening of the blood is something that dark ones frequently experience, then why didn’t Rumple need the magic potion in SB before there was magic? Are we to believe that Rumple had brought over a huge reserve of magic potion with him in the first curse to last him 28 years? Remember, magic couldn’t be created in ALWM, but magical objects could be used.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Here are some other questions and potential plot holes to consider about dark one mythology. Rumple said he’d used magic back in SB to keep his blood from thickening. How long has this affliction of coagulating blood been affecting him? Is this a medical condition that affected him in the Enchanted Forest? Have previous dark ones also faced this condition, and if so, why didn’t Zoso let nature take its course and let his thick blood kill him, rather than tricking Rumple into being the next dark one? And if the thickening of the blood is something that dark ones frequently experience, then why didn’t Rumple need the magic potion in SB before there was magic? Are we to believe that Rumple had brought over a huge reserve of magic potion with him in the first curse to last him 28 years? Remember, magic couldn’t be created in ALWM, but magical objects could be used.
In fairytales, the heart rules emotions, morals, etc., therefore, part of the DO curse is the hardening of the heart – so the DO becomes pure evil. What i believe Rumple meant was that as the DO, he could still have feelings – it is this that Belle saw through in EF – she could see/sense that he wasn’t pure evil. If Rumple would have let the full effects of the DO curse fill his veins, he would not have cared about finding Bae, and all the actions/steps he took to ensure all fell into place (i.e. DC1, Emma/savior, etc.) wouldn’t have mattered and/or taken place. Also, he would never have fallen in love with Belle – his true love (B&B). During DC1 – all the characters were in a state of limbo (they didn’t age, lived basically in the movie Groundhog Day every day, etc.) so his heart was exactly in the state it found itself on the day the DC1 was placed.
Again, besides being sisters, Regina and Zelena both used magic
And yet Zelena’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403.
Because she has true love magic now, white magic like Emma. Love can reverse a dark heart. Remember when Regina pulled out her own heart and gave it to Tinkerbell? The moment she started talking about her pure love for Henry, it started to get brighter? Now, Regina’s heart is filled with love, for Henry, Robin and little Roland too.
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