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April 13, 2015 at 10:48 am #301357RumplesGirlKeymaster
Because she has true love magic now, white magic like Emma. Love can reverse a dark heart. Remember when Regina pulled out her own heart and gave it to Tinkerbell? The moment she started talking about her pure love for Henry, it started to get brighter? Now, Regina’s heart is filled with love, for Henry, Robin and little Roland too.
How does Regina having true love magic affect Zelena’s heart?? Zelena (as Marian)’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403. This has nothing to do with Regina’s heart.
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 13, 2015 at 10:51 am #301358MatthewPaulModeratorHow does Regina having true love magic affect Zelena’s heart?? Zelena (as Marian)’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403. This has nothing to do with Regina’s heart.
I’ll mention this again, but who’s to say the glamour spell didn’t conceal the appearance of Zelena’s heart to look like Marian’s, too?
April 13, 2015 at 10:53 am #301360RumplesGirlKeymasterHow does Regina having true love magic affect Zelena’s heart?? Zelena (as Marian)’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403. This has nothing to do with Regina’s heart.
I’ll mention this again, but who’s to say the glamour spell didn’t conceal the appearance of Zelena’s heart to look like Marian’s, too?
So aren’t half the magic doers of the world walking around as other people in order to prevent magically thick blood.
I’m not saying you’re not right, but I’m saying it’s problematic and sloppy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 13, 2015 at 10:55 am #301361MatthewPaulModeratorSo aren’t half the magic doers of the world walking around as other people in order to prevent magically thick blood.
I’m not saying you’re not right, but I’m saying it’s problematic and sloppy.
No, I wouldn’t think the glamour spell would undo that. The glamour spell is more of an illusion. Zelena’s heart might still look like Marian’s, but that doesn’t undo whatever darkness in it.
April 13, 2015 at 10:59 am #301362RumplesGirlKeymasterSo aren’t half the magic doers of the world walking around as other people in order to prevent magically thick blood. I’m not saying you’re not right, but I’m saying it’s problematic and sloppy.
No, I wouldn’t think the glamour spell would undo that. The glamour spell is more of an illusion. Zelena’s heart might still look like Marian’s, but that doesn’t undo whatever darkness in it.
Well then in that case, we really could have used some more information about 1) this new disease and 2) this new glamour spell and what it does.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 13, 2015 at 11:11 am #301365SlurpeezParticipantI think the thickening of the blood is something very specific to dark ones being the price of their curse. I don’t think general users of dark magic (e.g. Regina, Zelena, Cora) were afflicted with this particular price of magic–though they may have had to pay in other ways (e.g. the hole left in Regina’s heart was a price of casting the dark curse).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 13, 2015 at 11:14 am #301367RumplesGirlKeymasterI think the thickening of the blood is something very specific to dark ones being the price of their curse. I don’t think general users of dark magic (e.g. Regina, Zelena, Cora) were afflicted with this particular price of magic–though they may have had to pay in other ways (e.g. the hole left in Regina’s heart was a price of casting the dark curse).
I think that’s very likely as well. But again, it would have been useful to throw in a line somewhere about that.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 13, 2015 at 12:49 pm #301383CorbinParticipantI thought about this a lot, and I came to this: when a person originally becomes a DO, they retain their morals and values. They’re still human, just with more power and knowledge. However, as time goes on, their heart slowly starts to become corrupted until they die. This corruption causes them to stray off any path they were on.
For example, let’s use Snow White. She’s supposed to have the purest heart in the land, but if she became the DO, she would eventually become pure evil.
I could see the writers using this to explain all of Rumple’s actions: his DO curse finally corrupted his heart, causing him to become a pure evil figure right before his eventual death.
Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!
April 13, 2015 at 12:50 pm #301384RumplesGirlKeymaster@ronja_nora the glamour spell extended to the heart
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) April 13, 2015
So Matt was right. But still, show don’t expect someone to ask on Twitter
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"April 13, 2015 at 2:01 pm #301399WickedRegalParticipantI think the thickening of the blood is something very specific to dark ones being the price of their curse. I don’t think general users of dark magic (e.g. Regina, Zelena, Cora) were afflicted with this particular price of magic–though they may have had to pay in other ways (e.g. the hole left in Regina’s heart was a price of casting the dark curse).
I think that’s very likely as well. But again, it would have been useful to throw in a line somewhere about that.
I guess I now think back to Zoso…he really wanted Rumple to put an end to his life, I wonder if because he was the Dark One, the darkness in his heart combined with the thickening of his blood…he told Rumple something about he’d have to pay a price too right?
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