Rumple's Heart

[nevermore]

Ok, I won’t launch into a rant about the many ways in which this episode fails — looks like people are already addressing it in a couple of places on this forum. But … I just can’t… “something about diet and exercise?” “The curse has thickened my blood”…”I had a heart attack”… “My problem isn’t physical?”

So much bad, handwavy writing in the general direction of Rumple’s “physical condition” that somehow isn’t “physical” that even Bobby looked vaguely annoyed with his character’s sudden and unexplainable failure at basis medical literacy. While one might make the excuse that, being from the EF, he wouldn’t know a thermometer from a frying pan, I do not buy, for a second, that he’d be such a ditz when he’s admittedly dying. Rumple has been around for a while. Wouldn’t he spend at least part of that time learning stuff about how AWWM works?

Now, if this wonderful diagnosis of “thicker blood” is a question of blood viscosity, and that’s Rumple’s translation of what the docs told him, then I seriously doubt they would tell them that ‘diet and exercise’ is what he needs. They’d hydrate him, put him on blood-thinners, and maybe do a transfusion. Not to mention that the link between blood viscosity and heart attacks is actually a lot more complex than they make it appear – stroke and deep tissue thrombosis, yes, but a first year med student could have told the writers that. Or Dr. Google.

Lazy writing is lazy.

 

[Josephine]

Now, if this wonderful diagnosis of “thicker blood” is a question of blood viscosity, and that’s Rumple’s translation of what the docs told him, then I seriously doubt they would tell them that ‘diet and exercise’ is what he needs. They’d hydrate him, put him on blood-thinners, and maybe do a transfusion. Not to mention that the link between blood viscosity and heart attacks is actually a lot more complex than they make it appear – stroke and deep tissue thrombosis, yes, but a first year med student could have told the writers that. Or Dr. Google.

Exactly, dealing with the medical issues of my parents I know immediately that the first thing he’d have were tests for clotting and immediately on blood thinners and, you’re right, likely transfusions. And also, if he was to the point he needed a vent he’d probably be in a medically induced coma (believe me, I’ve been through this process many times) and then he would have to be weened off. It would not be a brief two day stay. Like you said, all it takes is a little thing called Google. In this day of information at anybody’s fingertips, it does smack of laziness.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[nevermore]

Exactly, dealing with the medical issues of my parents I know immediately that the first thing he’d have were tests for clotting and immediately on blood thinners and, you’re right, likely transfusions. And also, if he was to the point he needed a vent he’d probably be in a medically induced coma (believe me, I’ve been through this process many times) and then he would have to be weened off. It would not be a brief two day stay. Like you said, all it takes is a little thing called Google. In this day of information at anybody’s fingertips, it does smack of laziness.

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First off, so sorry to hear about you having to deal with this in real life. For what it’s worth, that whole scene, while I think meant to impress on us the perversity of Zelena, to me seemed to display a lazy, and frankly insensitive attitude to people who are going through what, in actuality, is an incredibly invasive and terrifying intervention.

[Slurpeez]

Firstly, *hugs* to Jo. Secondly, everything that @nevermore wrote just makes (1) Rumple the 300-year-old dark one sound ignorant and (2) the writers who created him sound even more out-of-the-know about medical science. Even if we’re to assume that Rumple of the Enchanted Forest might not understand modern medicine, Mr. Gold at least would’ve had 28 years worth of memories of how life without magic woks during the curse.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Josephine]

Thanks guys. I’ve written in another thread that that scene in the hospital was difficult to see. I had to leave the room for most of it. But you’re both correct. Rumple lived in this world with memories of his false self. Remember “We are Both”. He still has those memories. And once Emma showed up and triggered his memories he’d have researched extensively everything to do with our world. He likes to be prepared. His contingency plans had contingency plans. He might not be comfortable, as see in season two when he went to NYC with Emma and Henry, but he wasn’t completely ignorant. But they’re writing him that way.

Seasons 1-3a Rumple was a master chess player. Current Rumple seems to me to be more “I want this game to just end”.

Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

[obisgirl]

obisgirl wrote:

Again, besides being sisters, Regina and Zelena both used magic

And yet Zelena’s heart was bright red when Regina pulled it out of her in 403.

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