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May 11, 2014 at 10:23 pm #268590RumplesGirlKeymaster
Ok, this is a not a “Neal should come back” thread.
Rather, I want us to think about how realistic it is that Rumple, the Dark One, would drink a memory potion taking away knowledge that Bae dies in the future at this stage in the game.This is PAST Rumple. This is the Rumple who wanted to tear worlds apart for his son. No matter what this person from the future is telling him, he wouldn’t give up Baelfire and any knowledge he might get–especially in regards to his death.
So while I get that it would have caused problems in SB and present day, the fact is Rumple is acting a little OOC right here for me. Dark One Rumple would have said “screw this Savior and her future” and remembered that Neal dies.
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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 11, 2014 at 11:31 pm #268624SlurpeezParticipantIt was very uncharacteristic of Past Rumple to drink the forgetting potion immediately after Emma confirmed his son died in the future. Why would Past Rumple, who was not redeemed and had striven to save Bae for centuries, ever do that?
Also, it was so odd of Emma to have no problem with taking Past Marian back to the future and yet she told Rumple to drink the potion to forget about saving Neal. What? Emma didn’t want to alter the past but she brought back Marian? That makes no sense either.
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May 12, 2014 at 1:08 am #268681PheeParticipantAlso, it was of Emma to have like no problem with taking Past Marian back to the future and yet she told Rumple to drink the memory potion to forget about saving Neal. What? Emma didn’t want to alter the past but she brought back Marian? That makes no sense either.
It was completely hypocritical of her.
And no, there’s no way I can believe that Dark One Rumple, who was OBSESSED with finding his son for CENTURIES would just shrug off the fact that he died and not even attempt to change it.
May 12, 2014 at 1:35 am #268695Crystal PrincessParticipantto be fair if someone’s going to die taking them out of the timeline generally has minimal impact and it’s often a tactic used to bring people back who “need” to be alive in the future.
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May 12, 2014 at 4:00 am #268734GaultheriaParticipantSlurpeez wrote:
Also, it was so odd of Emma to have no problem with taking Past Marian back to the future and yet she told Rumple to drink the memory potion to forget about saving Neal. What? Emma didn’t want to alter the past but she brought back Marian? That makes no sense either.
Emma did leave Marian on the ground after inflicting a life-threatening head injury, so I’d say at least Emma’s subconscious knew not to mess with history.
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May 12, 2014 at 5:07 am #268744baelishParticipantYes, thank you! There’s no WAY Past Rumple should have done that. All his actions when interacting with Emma even further proved that what he did was totally OOC. When he first meets Emma his first question of the future is of course about his son. Even after hearing that he does succeed, he comes back and has to ask Emma if he is forgiven by Baelfire and senses something else off.
All that, and then after hearing about his DEATH just decides to drink the memory potion when it is very possible with this knowledge he could change his son’s fate just because of what Emma said of threatening the future – while he goes and does that anyway with the curse? What the heck. And then Emma was a hypocrite and saved someone who should have died?!!
Honestly, the writer’s really messed up with this one and I’m pretty upset.
May 12, 2014 at 6:16 am #268759TomaParticipantBut think of what was Rumple’s original motivation to make the potion. He wanted to make sure that nothing messed with his head such that his plan to reunite his son would be thrown off. If he had kept the memories, he might not have been able to even reunite with Neal in the first place. Though to be honest, I think if anyone could pull it off, it would be Rumple. After all, he has the abilities of the Seer (I wonder if her prophecy takes into account time-travelling) as well as being one of the best strategists in the show.
And then Emma was a hypocrite and saved someone who should have died?!!
To be fair to Emma, she probably thought bringing Marian to the future would have the solved the problem of messing up the past timeline, which it did in a way. Though I think it’s a gray area on whether she did the right thing by forcing Marian to go with them against her will.
But I find it weird Emma never thought to ask Marian’s name all the time they were alone together in the cell.
May 12, 2014 at 8:50 am #2687903princessesParticipantShe did ask her name, but Marian was afraid to tell her because Regina didn’t really know who she was. Marian wanted to protect her family.
I don’t think Rumple would have taken the memory potion if it wasn’t for Emma’s emotional description of everything to him. The way she said that he & Rumple reconciled, Bae was a hero & she had loved him was very sincere. I don’t think Rumple wanted to mess up any of the good even if it meant not getting to change the bad (Neal’s death). If he didn’t take the potion, he was risking never even finding Bae at all.
May 12, 2014 at 11:24 am #268880WishAndHopeParticipantRumple drank the memory potion, and Belle? She met Emma and Hook, she doesn’t remember any of them?
May 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm #269093rikucrafterParticipantRumple drank the memory potion, and Belle? She met Emma and Hook, she doesn’t remember any of them?
Weren’t they still disguised as Charles & Leia until Rumple teleported them into the vault?
That’s how I took it.
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