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Rumple probably cast a memory charm on Belle, like the one that Regina used on Henry in S2.
I would not be shocked if Rumple created the memory potion with SOME kind of loophole though.
I did giggle like crazy when he questioned why he was where he was after taking it though. That was brilliant, RC.
And he doesn’t know how far in the future it is. Maybe he gets years with his son instead of days. So the risk of letting him die (which he may yet be able to prevent in some fashion) is smaller than the risk of ruining the reunion he’s sought for over a century.
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Is this before or after Rumple sees the Seer that tells him that he will find Bae?
After. Waaaaaay after
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think if Rumple hadn’t drunk the memory potion, he could up screwed up time further. Think about, what if he found Bae before he met Emma? Henry would not exist and Emma would not have a reason to go to Storybrooke and everything that’s happened for the past three seasons would not have happened.
I don’t think Rumple necassiarily forgot about his son but a general rule when it comes to time travel is if you learn too much, you could up causing more harm to the future than good.
Those are my thoughts.
I think if Rumple hadn’t drunk the memory potion, he could up screwed up time further. Think about, what if he found Bae before he met Emma? Henry would not exist and Emma would not have a reason to go to Storybrooke and everything that’s happened for the past three seasons would not have happened.
If Rumple found Bae before he met Emma then Rumple wouldn’t care. Until very recently, the ONLY thing he cared about in life was finding his son, so as long as that happened, that’s all that matters. If Rumple found Bae beforehand, he’d need no Curse, so there’d be no SB, and no need to have someone come to SB to break the Curse so Rumple could find Bae, because he’d already found him, so Emma would be a non-entity in Rumple’s point of view.
Just because Snow and Charming found a way to be together again, despite the interruption to their original meeting, that shouldn’t have ensured the rest of the timeline remained unchanged. Yes, their reunion ensured Emma’s existence into the future, but more things should’ve changed than they in fact did. In Back to the Future, Marty interrupted his parents’ first meeting and had to make sure they fell in a love again, just as Emma did in this episode. Yet, when Marty returned to the future, a lot of things had changed, meaning it was an Alternate Universe in the present day (e.g. Doc survived, Marty’s parents were successful, and his siblings were outgoing). More things should’ve changed in the present day than they did on Once. Also, I will add it’s a little too convenient of the writers to have Emma say, “don’t let Neal’s sacrifice be in vain” by letting Neal remain dead. Yet, Rumple scarified himself to save his son, but then the writers let Rumple’s sacrifice be in vain. It’s inconsistent, at best.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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But what does that have to do with motivating Rumple’s decision to drink or not to drink? He doesn’t give a crap about anything except finding his son. He doesn’t give a crap if other people’s lives are affected (or if they don’t even get born, like the example of Henry), just as long as at some point in time, he finds Bae. That was his singular focus at that point in time.
Also, I will add it’s a little too convenient of the writers to have Emma say, “don’t let Neal’s sacrifice be in vain” by letting Neal remain dead. Yet, Rumple scarified himself to save his son, but then the writers let Rumple’s sacrifice be in vain. It’s inconsistent, at best.
Yup! More useful information for her to reveal would have been, “After you found him, you sacrificed yourself to protect him from your father. Then he tried to bring you back and unknowingly gave his own life in the process.” Let Rumple stew on that. Then have him keep his memories, knowing that he’ll give his life to protect his son from someone he knows is completely terrible, but that it’s a sacrifice he knows he must make. And keeping his memories would allow him to take precautions so that HIS sacrifice stuck, so that it truly meant something, so that he could really be redeemed one day and find some peace, along with forgiveness from his son.
The thing is, if they had let Rumple not drink the potion and somehow prevented Neal from dying, it would have retconned A LOT of plot and character development from this half of the Season, which would be a lot for casual viewers to take. Preventing Neal’s death would have meant somehow preventing Rumple’s sacrifice against Pan in 311, or having Neal not bring Rumple back in the first place. With the later scenario, face it, there was no chance in Hades they were ever going to let Rumple remain dead. Also, had Neal been kept alive, chances are Rumple wouldn’t have killed Zelena and caused the time portal to open back up to begin with causing a paradox. Point is, any scenario where Neal’s death is prevented would have changed so much that we saw happen.
The thing is, if they had let Rumple not drink the potion and somehow prevented Neal from dying, it would have retconned A LOT of plot and character development from this half of the Season, which would be a lot for casual viewers to take. Preventing Neal’s death would have meant somehow preventing Rumple’s sacrifice against Pan in 311, or having Neal not bring Rumple back in the first place. With the later scenario, face it, there was no chance in Hades they were ever going to let Rumple remain dead. Also, had Neal been kept alive, chances are Rumple wouldn’t have killed Zelena and caused the time portal to open back up to begin with causing a paradox. Point is, any scenario with Neal’s death is prevented would have changed so much that we saw happen.
My original question wasn’t about Neal coming back or if Neal should have come back from a PLOT standpoint. This a character discussion. From a PLOT standpoint, I know that he’s not coming back and they needed a way for Rumple to forget all this in order to keep Neal dead for PLOT. But from a character stand point, at this point in his development, (103–Snow Falls), Rumple would NEVER have drank the potion.
You can’t take his character development from this season into account because it does exist for PAST Rumple. PAST Rumple hasn’t gone through any of things present day Rumple has."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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