Rumple’s plan

[beastwhisperer]

@KFChimera wrote:

Snow says to disguised Regina that in her mind the Queen was in too much pain and looking for someone to blame. The she sees the bodies and changes her mind. Yet we know she changes her mind back again at the scene in the Cricket Game flashback, where Regina was about to be executed.

So now I wonder this–what made her change her mind back? What good did she see in Regina after the village slaughter?

I think Snow was acting in the passion of the moment when she expressed her horror and anger over the atrocity that Regina had just commited. She had every reason and right to feel sick at the slaughter.

Over time when her initial anger had a chance to cool, I think Snow realized that Regina had been following Snow with every opportunity to plant the sword that Snow had given Regina into Snow’s back… but something had stopped her. For a brief while, Snow had connected with the woman that Regina once was. She’d have realized that the woman Snow had once loved like a mother was actually still in there after the atrocity and had been responding to love.

In a sense it’s like they’ve been playing tag with which one of them thinks Regina is irredeemable. Snow thinks Regina is iredeemable this time. Regina had committed herself to being irredeemable after being spared the arrows. Snow believes Regina isn’t capable of changing back after the curse is broken. The show is in danger of muddying the waters if they go for too much back and forth on this though.

After this episode at least we can understand why Regina thought Snow was going to let her back into her family after the well incident. “Here! I did the right thing! I saved you! Can we go to family dinner now?” LOL Though we can still understand why Snow didn’t as well.

For some fans they may feel this is a slippery slope for these two characters. I have my worries about it. I think the performances were worth the risk in storytelling this time, and I think they could go somewhere good with it all. Especially with Snow trying to fix her own heart. It gives her a whole new perspective about the world. They just have to be really cautious of keeping their morality straight, not villifying Snow to make Regina more redeemable, and getting Regina’s delusional head out of her cute derrier.

[laurieanne]

I agree with BeastWhisperer that it was probably the passing of time and reflection on Snow’s part that allowed her to think that there was redemption possibility in Regina. We know this arc is going somewhere for both Snow and Regina and we will be seeing them work together to try to save Henry in the finale. So it is setting us up for that.

Rumple’s plan – Other than giving the amazing LP and RC a chance to work their two scenes together? I think it was to push her more toward darkness for its own sake, rather than to gain love (as it has been said before). He wants to keep close tabs on her, because she is the key to casting the curse. He wants to make sure she is on track.

Reference to Belle – I just loved the brief reference, so we know where we are in the timeline. Thanks, A & E. Rumple seems very high-spirited too. Maybe this is how Regina knew about Belle being there. Did she pick up on something to tip her off that this was more than just a maid? I love that all these things in FTL are happening at the same time!

[thelonebamf]

@KFChimera wrote:

Snow says to disguised Regina that in her mind the Queen was in too much pain and looking for someone to blame. The she sees the bodies and changes her mind. Yet we know she changes her mind back again at the scene in the Cricket Game flashback, where Regina was about to be executed.

So now I wonder this–what made her change her mind back? What good did she see in Regina after the village slaughter?

Remember, by that point Snow is no longer a stranger to the idea of wanting revenge. After taking the potion she procured from Rumplestiltskin, she felt the desire to kill Regina. It’s possible that after experiencing that she realized what it’s like to be enshrouded in anger and darkness, but that it is possible to come back from that place.

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evildoer; nothing is more difficult than to understand him."

[kfchimera]

Yes, the potion, as well as the fact Regina didn’t slice her with the sword…good points.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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