Ruth’s necklace

[obisgirl]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

Prince Charming’s mother, Ruth, gave her gypsy-enchanted necklace to Snow, to tell the gender of an unborn child. I always wondered how Snow White knew her unborn baby would be a girl in the pilot when Rumpelstiltskin said Snow knew the sex. Now we know. 🙂

True.

@Marilou wrote:

it only raise the question, who was the gypsy that gave it to her?

@zlfh4 wrote:

Esmerelda!! lol

😮 It makes sense.

[gypsy]

We do that same exact thing in my family…except we use a needle and thread. It really does seem to work. Hasn’t been wrong yet….not in four generations.

[lostuponatime]

@Crest1994 wrote:

@LOSTuponatime wrote:

I swear I’ve almost had it with the Disney references … Okay, I don’t mean that. But to have Mulan in a show about storybook fairy tale characters is a little bit to “on the nose” for Disney-owned ABC. I don’t think it’ll be Esmeralda … Her story takes place in a REAL place: Paris. All of these other stories take place in non-descript kingdoms … But good guess! … I could be wrong … It has happened once before … 😀

Well the Legend of King Arthur took place in a real place, BRITAIN! But I don’t think Lancelot sounded very British. It’s perfectly possible to include Quasimodo and Esmerelda and just remove the Paris references like they did with Lancelot.

The legend of King Arthur is folklore stolen by the Brits mainly from French archetypes. Though I will submit that Belle is from provincial France, its easier to glaze over that than it is to forget that The Hunchback of Notre Dame may be from anywhere EXCEPT Notre Dame in Paris.

Accents aside – though as an actor that BUGS me to know end – I will say that the gypsy thing maybe an aspect of lore that we’ve already received. It was a gypsy that gave it to her. Nothing more. Nothing less. Though I will also submit that the puppeteer Stromboli from the Pinocchio story is a gypsy character … It maybe something to think about if the timelines match up.

[Phee]

If memory serves, the casting call for Lancelot mentioned he was British, but, yeah, he didn’t exactly sound it. Maybe they couldn’t find an actor who could fake the accent convincingly, so scrapped the idea.

[crest1994]

To adress the point by Lostuponatime. The Legend of King Arthur, is that he was a King somewhere in Britain, he’s a British symbol. It’d be perfectly possible to have a hunchback called Quasimodo, and a Gypsy called Esmerelda etc, but just don’t have the setting at the Notre Dame/ Paris.

@Phee wrote:

If memory serves, the casting call for Lancelot mentioned he was British, but, yeah, he didn’t exactly sound it. Maybe they couldn’t find an actor who could fake the accent convincingly, so scrapped the idea.

It doesn’t really make sense, as if he was British that would mean that Britain was in Fairytale land not the real world 😛 Also same goes for the pilot ep where Dracula as seen in the book, Dracula took place in Transylvania, Romania, a real place. The writers just have to gloss over these and remove references to the actual place, ie Britain, Translyvania, Notre Dame/Paris

[Phee]

Well, everyone in FTL has an accent of some description, most of them American, which makes as much sense as Rumple being Scottish, Belle being an Aussie and the Huntsman being an Irishman. If you wanna get technical about it, would people living in an alternate, magical realm even speak English at all? There’d be a basis for it if Lancelot sounded British though, because that’s how we know of the legendary character in our world. Mulan is quite obviously still Chinese, but they’re not asking us to believe that she’s from real world China.

[Daniel J. Lewis]

Back to the original topic … 🙂

In The Secrets of Once Upon a Time‘s “Lady of the Lake” episode (not yet posted), they briefly theorized that maybe the gypsy was on of Jiminy’s parents. I initially dismissed that thought because of the required age difference. (“That Still Small Voice” was about 50 years before “Lady of the Lake.”)

But then I rewatched “Lady of the Lake” today and realized that Ruth said that it was spelled by a gypsy and given to Ruth by her mother. Thus, it could be possible that one of Jiminy’s parents was the one to spell the necklace. That would be cool to see that connection, but not necessary for the story.

[obisgirl]

I still think it was Esmeralda. Jiminy’s parents didn’t seem all that magical too me, just con artists.

[gen]

Nobody thinks that the necklace appears to be the same as Emma’s? As I was watching this episode, I saw Emma wearring a necklace and I thought maybe that was the same. also, I think I saw a Swan on Ruth’s necklace (I need to see some captures) but maybe that’s a sign? I don’t know…

[Phee]

This is Ruth’s. Looks like someone riding on the back of a bird.

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