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I understand that Robin doesn’t love Marian anymore but can someone explain to me why no one considered that maybe Roland could use true love’s kiss to save his mom? It’s not like we haven’t seen it before; it happened twice with Henry. The whole time I was watching that arc, I was thinking, why not have Roland give his mom a kiss and save her? I know Marian loves her son and I think Roland loves his mommy, so why wasn’t true love’s kiss an option there?
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[adrotate group="5"]I understand that Robin doesn’t love Marian anymore but can someone explain to me why no one considered that maybe Roland could use true love’s kiss to save his mom?
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"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I knew you were probably going to say that @rumplesgirl but I was hoping for something different.
I knew you were probably going to say that @rumplesgirl but I was hoping for something different.
Okay. I’ll go again then.
Roland is just getting to know his mother. Right now, is it true love? I don’t know how mother and child bond because I’m not a mother. But I know mothers love their child upon birth, but do children? It might be that Roland’s feelings–right now–aren’t strong enough and they DID try, but off screen.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Marian willing to give up Robin for his happiness should’ve counted as an act of true love on her part which should’ve thawed her frozen heart. Marian would’ve saved herself but instead they made her a millstone which is exactly what she didn’t want to be. The “Poor Regina” schtick is really getting old.
Roland is just getting to know his mother. Right now, is it true love? I don’t know how mother and child bond because I’m not a mother. But I know mothers love their child upon birth, but do children? It might be that Roland’s feelings–right now–aren’t strong enough and they DID try, but off screen.
The only thing with this though is, if this were the case, why did Emma and Henry’s kiss work in season 1? Henry didn’t know Emma that long and they were only really getting to know each other.
I think the answer is as you say RG “Plot!”. They needed Marian to provide angst for OQ and she couldn’t do that if she saved herself or Roland saved her.
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Keeper of FelixI think the answer is as you say RG “Plot!”. They needed Marian to provide angst for OQ and she couldn’t do that if she saved herself or Roland saved her.
Of course the real answer is plot. But that answer was met with unhappy feelings.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@POM Hery was also older and able to process emotions better too. His situation wasn’t the same as Roland’s. To Roland, he lived most of his life without his mother and was probably too young to even really think much of it. Then regina comes into his life and he is happy with her,and then his mommy comes back and he’s probably just like “Yay! Two ladies to buy me ice cream :D” rather than feeling deep emotions because he’s only like what? 5? 6? I dont really expect a kiss from Roland to work on Marian anymore than it should on Regina. If it were Robin, then id get it.
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Roland, at 5, might be willing to do that, but we haven’t seen that; we know Marian would and DID (in one timeline) sacrifice her own life to save her family, so on her side it’s definitely true love but harder to say for Roland and definitely more complicated for Robin 4 years down the line (in time that he’s perceived, anyway). I would argue that Robin & Marian at the time of Roland’s birth HAD to be True Love though, because both showed that willingness to sacrifice for the other.
(This theory of Love Is Sacrifice goes for all the TLKs we’ve seen…and some of the failures we’ve seen, too–both parties have to be willing to sacrifice for the other. I think in Skin Deep we saw a Rumple willing to give up his maid for her own good, and a Belle willing to give up her freedom to save Rumple from his curse–that’s why it almost worked–but as soon as Rumple wasn’t willing to sacrifice for her, it stopped working…and maybe that’s why it’s never worked in Storybrooke, because there have only been a few moments when he was truly ready to give up his power/life for her. Charming/Snow we’ve seen frequently willing to sacrifice for the other, same with Philora, and Regina & Henry have also both put themselves at risk/given up a lot for the other’s happiness. I’d argue both Neal and Hook have demonstrated True Love for Emma because of what they were willing to sacrifice for her, too, even though we haven’t seen a TLK between either–though we have seen an object cross realms “borne of true love” and a curse that required the name of one’s true love to be spoken…and we KNOW Neal gave up everything for Emma, multiple times, and Hook gave up his ship and his revenge and has demonstrated a willingness to put himself in serious jeopardy for her sake).
…rambling sorry.
tl;dr: True Love requires a mutual willingness to sacrifice for the other in Once’s world.
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we know Marian would and DID (in one timeline) sacrifice her own life to save her family, so on her side it’s definitely true love but harder to say for Roland and definitely more complicated for Robin 4 years down the line
Forgive me for being off topic for one second…but…Marian sacrificed her life to save her family??? No…no…I’m sorry…just no…Marian sacrificed her life to save Snow White’s life…something I still don’t quite understand, and a bit iffy, because she’d rather die for Snow White without giving a second thought for Robin and Roland. I don’t know…perhaps I could have had more sympathy for her had Regina just outright killed her instead of offering her a choice.
Her decision probably could have put her own family in even more danger considering Regina was quite the wrathful one back then…well except Roland. Oohhh…and I do now wonder what would it have been like if Regina had saw Robin’s tattoo if she had captured him along with Marian…
But on topic…does true love really have to be a mutual affection? Or could it have worked if someone loved her, but she didn’t love them? Because if that was the case…maybe the Sherriff of Nottingham could have worked? In the past, he seemed like he was really fond of her. I can’t really remember his scenes that well, but the fact he feels Robin stole Marian from him…maybe he did have a thing for her???? I don’t know much about anything on Once anymore….
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