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If I’m remembering right, she ordered him to leave. He said he wouldn’t be able to come back, she said, “I know.” She didn’t order him never to return, because she didn’t have to.
You’re right. Okay that works then
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’d just like to ask a question regarding Scarlet Queen (Ana & Will) because I’ve read conflicting spoilers/speculation in regard to Ana and Will’s relationship. I know they’re true love, but the thing that continues to bother me is were they really married? Or were they simply boyfriend and girlfriend?
If the marriage thing is a fandom head canon, then ok.
Can someone clear this up?
Can someone clear this up?
At the 2:20 mark, shot of an illustration of Will and Ana, as Alice is telling her daughter about the White King and Queen ruling WL, (if Will became King, safe to say he and Ana get married at some point)…
IF Wonderland starts at the beginning of S2, then there’s been maybe a year since that wedding.
Now, there are two loopholes: Alice may have embellished the ending of her story–we don’t see Will & Ana together ruling for all that time, just a drawing of them as king and queen. Also, Alice’s daughter appears to be 5 or 6, which means that this postscript would have to be in the future from where we are right now. This would then just be a bump on the road to the White King & Queen ruling happily ever after.
One further possible loophole that just gives me a headache: They did the time-travel bit AFTER the missing year, which means that…it’s possible…Emma, Hook, and Zelena (?) messed up the timeline for Wonderland and that’s why Will’s in Storybrooke instead of with his TL. That would mean that the happy ending we saw in Alice was in an alternate timeline from the one our characters now inhabit. I…really dislike this explanation but fear it might be where they go because it’s just convoluted enough they’ll think they’re shocking us more with it.
(I love time travel stories, but trying to reason them out just gives me a headache.)
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I think they should’ve left Will alone instead of transporting him to the main show if they are going to screw up the ScarlettQueen pairing by doing ScarlettBeauty. I could potentially see him perhaps hooking up with Emma down the line since she shares some similarities with Anastasia eg blonde hair, magic, red dress, thieving background, etc plus she and Will have actually shared screentime. #ScarlettSwan
I don’t see them keeping RumBelle apart permanently, not when they are showing Belle is clearly not over Rumple 2 episodes in a row. Plus considering the whole “We are both” mantra, The Lacey side of Belle doesn’t want a nice guy like Will.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixIF Wonderland starts at the beginning of S2, then there’s been maybe a year since that wedding.
Now, there are two loopholes: Alice may have embellished the ending of her story–we don’t see Will & Ana together ruling for all that time, just a drawing of them as king and queen. Also, Alice’s daughter appears to be 5 or 6, which means that this postscript would have to be in the future from where we are right now. This would then just be a bump on the road to the White King & Queen ruling happily ever after.
That’s what I thought too. I mean, if Alice and Cyrus and their daughter are happy, then I don’t imagine she would need to return to Wonderland. I always felt that maybe that was her own head canon for how the story ended. Alice wrote her own fanfic basically.
One further possible loophole that just gives me a headache: They did the time-travel bit AFTER the missing year, which means that…it’s possible…Emma, Hook, and (?) messed up the timeline for Wonderland and that’s why Will’s in Storybrooke instead of with his TL. That would mean that the happy ending we saw in Alice was in an alternate timeline from the one our characters now inhabit. I…really dislike this explanation but fear it might be where they go because it’s just convoluted enough they’ll think they’re shocking us more with it.
(I love time travel stories, but trying to reason them out just gives me a headache.)
Hmm, maybe.
I don’t like this explanation, but maybe the last time Alice had contact with Will, he and Anastasia were the White King and Queen. When she read the story to her daughter they no longer were, but Alice didn’t know that.
With Belle and the dagger, it still doesn’t quite make sense because I thought they’ve indicated in the past that the Dark One couldn’t act against what the controller of the dagger desired whether they verbally expressed it or not. Unless, Belle deep down does want Rumple to be able to return.
Even if they go the whole “what Alice showed to her daughter wasn’t accurate anymore” angle, that’s still retconning what the original ending of Wonderland implied. If they actually had a long term plan of permanently separating Will and Anastasia for the sake of including Will on the parent show, then they would have left her dead. But no, they went the extra mile to resurrect Anastasia with Nyx’s water because “it wasn’t her time.”
Of COURSE deep down Belle didn’t want Rumple to be gone forever. She was angry, rightfully so, and she was doing what she had to in order to protect others from Rumple’s plans. She caught him in the very act of attempting murder, after all.
But it was killing her to banish him, and she still can’t stop thinking about him, hoping he’s okay.
We’ve also seen him fight the will of the person holding the dagger a few times, like with Zelena. You also notice that she was able to persuade him to do things without using the dagger, even though she had it on her–for her, that was the ultimate power trip, making him play dolls with her. So I think it’s got to be a conscious command, even if it doesn’t have to be verbal.
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