Season 2, Episode 20 — Hook Is Back! (PHOTOS

[PanTheMan]

Did you just jump ship, Slurpeez?![/quote]
😆 I started out as a Captain Swan fan but have evolved to love Swanfire as end-game. Doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy the flirty ride before we get there. 🙂 ;)[/quote]

So Slurpeez, how do you feel about Hook and Regina? Swanfire was always endgame for me after Tallahassee, and i now find myself rooting for Hook and Regina!

[Slurpeez]

@Pan14 wrote:

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Did you just jump ship, Slurpeez?!

😆 I started out as a Captain Swan fan but have evolved to love Swanfire as end-game. Doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy the flirty ride before we get there. 🙂 😉

So Slurpeez, how do you feel about Hook and Regina? Swanfire was always endgame for me after Tallahassee, and i now find myself rooting for Hook and Regina!

It could happen, but only if they ever work out their own individual issues first. Plus, I think Regina might double-cross Hook in this upcoming episode, given the synopsis.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Keb]

I can kinda see Hook and Regina having a fling, but I suspect that they’ll have way, way too many trust issues to get very far. Neither likes people who double-cross them, and both have a strong propensity to double-cross others. And they’ve already done that to each other a couple of times–Hook sided with Cora against Regina after agreeing to help Regina, and Regina sided with Cora against Hook when he thought they were working together. The two of them are also very flirty people and the flirting between them has been very minimal in comparison to other people they’ve talked to…which is interesting.

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[RumplesGirl]

I’m interested to see Hook and Regina’s interaction this week. When last we saw the two of them together, Cora has just betrayed Hook and flung him into a bookcase. Now Cora’s dead and Regina’s got an agenda. I think those two will make an excellent team, provided they can stop snakring at each other long enough to do something.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[lisas]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I’m interested to see Hook and Regina’s interaction this week. When last we saw the two of them together, Cora has just betrayed Hook and flung him into a bookcase. Now Cora’s dead and Regina’s got an agenda. I think those two will make an excellent team, provided they can stop snakring at each other long enough to do something.

RG I think in the end it will be Hook that double crosses Regina because he knows he can’t trust her anymore then he can trust GOAT. I think he will end up going to Emma & Neal, Snow & Charming for an alliance which will set up for 2×21 Second Star To The Right when we learn about Neal’s & Hook’s past in Neverland

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[sharon]

Anyone know who is this?

I see Greg, and the back of Hook, but who is the other guy?

http://www.wetpaint.com/once-upon-a-time/gallery/once-upon-a-time-behind-the-scenes-pics-season-2-episode-20-the-evil-queen-photos#5

Moderator’s Edit: I merged your thread on to this one because someone else had the same question about the same picture on pg 2 of the current thread. We think it’s probably the director or other production crew. Thanks–RG

[beastwhisperer]

@Keb wrote:

I can kinda see Hook and Regina having a fling, but I suspect that they’ll have way, way too many trust issues to get very far. Neither likes people who double-cross them, and both have a strong propensity to double-cross others. And they’ve already done that to each other a couple of times–Hook sided with Cora against Regina after agreeing to help Regina, and Regina sided with Cora against Hook when he thought they were working together. The two of them are also very flirty people and the flirting between them has been very minimal in comparison to other people they’ve talked to…which is interesting.

Speaking purely as someone who does ship Hook and Regina, their guardedness about flirting with each other is one of the reasons I like it. This is just my personal take on the characters, but I’ve always had the feeling that because both characters are still devoted to their dead lovers that neither will actually let themselves get too flirty or open around someone who could actually touch their heart or get too close. Regina had her “whatever you want to call it” with Graham for years, but she made sure he didn’t have his heart so he couldn’t feel anything and neither would she. Her crushing his heart was all about hurt pride. Hook flirts with most people, but he does it in a very off-putting fashion, like flirting with both a mother and a daughter or saying something outright crude. As a result the women tend to just roll their eyes at him instead of going for it. It’s like a self-defense mechanism to keep emotional attachments out.

I find Hook and Regina’s interactions to be different from their interactions with their other potential romantic interests, and that’s one of the things I dig about the potential between them. Regina knows full out that Hook suffered the same loss of a true love that she did and even by the same means of death. They knowingly and unknowingly make comments that dance around the other’s heartbreak. I’d love to know how much Hook overheard of Regina’s farewell to Cora after he “killed” her. I don’t think he knows the details, but he might have heard enough to suspect something. They’re like a mirror to each other, and sensing that could certainly make them more guarded about revealing themselves. It’s safe to flirt with someone else, but there are some people who, if you go there, can only be a real connection. That’s how I view these two.

So far everyone’s betrayed Hook, and Hook’s betrayed everyone. There is no Hook ship that doesn’t have that element to contend with, unless you count Ariel who doesn’t actually exist in the Once-verse. Interestingly, Hook and Regina keep forming alliances despite the betrayals.

My suspicion about Regina betraying Hook this time is:

She tells him her plan about leaving SB with Hook and Henry, and she explains that there is some kind of mechanism in the curse that will destroy the town if she leaves. That means his crocodile will be destroyed with everyone else left behind. Henry calling her a villain might give Regina pause though, and she decides to back out of the plan…. thus she would have betrayed Hook by doing the right thing for once.

The show could go a totally different direction with it, and I can’t wait to find out what they decide to do. I just really find this dynamic to be complex, intriguing, and understated so far.

[kfchimera]

@Keb wrote:

I can kinda see Hook and Regina having a fling, but I suspect that they’ll have way, way too many trust issues to get very far. Neither likes people who double-cross them, and both have a strong propensity to double-cross others. And they’ve already done that to each other a couple of times–Hook sided with Cora against Regina after agreeing to help Regina, and Regina sided with Cora against Hook when he thought they were working together. The two of them are also very flirty people and the flirting between them has been very minimal in comparison to other people they’ve talked to…which is interesting.

Some good observations there, especially about their propensity for double-crosses, and how they both turn off the flirting with each other.

And as I was about to post that, I saw Beastwhisper’s post. The way you write up the potential of those two together does make the idea sound compelling, but I still fear they would end up in more darkness together. Anyway, for the betrayal, that could work–a complex situation no matter how it plays out when these two characters cross paths!

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

[beastwhisperer]

@KFChimera wrote:

@Keb wrote:

I can kinda see Hook and Regina having a fling, but I suspect that they’ll have way, way too many trust issues to get very far. Neither likes people who double-cross them, and both have a strong propensity to double-cross others. And they’ve already done that to each other a couple of times–Hook sided with Cora against Regina after agreeing to help Regina, and Regina sided with Cora against Hook when he thought they were working together. The two of them are also very flirty people and the flirting between them has been very minimal in comparison to other people they’ve talked to…which is interesting.

Some good observations there, especially about their propensity for double-crosses, and how they both turn off the flirting with each other.

And as I was about to post that, I saw Beastwhisper’s post. The way you write up the potential of those two together does make the idea sound compelling, but I still fear they would end up in more darkness together. Anyway, for the betrayal, that could work–a complex situation no matter how it plays out when these two characters cross paths!

It’s a valid concern. They’d either explode fantastically and take out half the world, or they’d go all the way to a HEA. I don’t see much middleground with those two. Hence my growing interest in the pairing. The untapped fanfic potential alone is staggering. 😈 😆

[Phee]

@BeastWhisperer wrote:

Speaking purely as someone who does ship Hook and Regina, their guardedness about flirting with each other is one of the reasons I like it. This is just my personal take on the characters, but I’ve always had the feeling that because both characters are still devoted to their dead lovers that neither will actually let themselves get too flirty or open around someone who could actually touch their heart or get too close. Regina had her “whatever you want to call it” with Graham for years, but she made sure he didn’t have his heart so he couldn’t feel anything and neither would she. Her crushing his heart was all about hurt pride. Hook flirts with most people, but he does it in a very off-putting fashion, like flirting with both a mother and a daughter or saying something outright crude. As a result the women tend to just roll their eyes at him instead of going for it. It’s like a self-defense mechanism to keep emotional attachments out.

I find Hook and Regina’s interactions to be different from their interactions with their other potential romantic interests, and that’s one of the things I dig about the potential between them. Regina knows full out that Hook suffered the same loss of a true love that she did and even by the same means of death. They knowingly and unknowingly make comments that dance around the other’s heartbreak. I’d love to know how much Hook overheard of Regina’s farewell to Cora after he “killed” her. I don’t think he knows the details, but he might have heard enough to suspect something. They’re like a mirror to each other, and sensing that could certainly make them more guarded about revealing themselves. It’s safe to flirt with someone else, but there are some people who, if you go there, can only be a real connection. That’s how I view these two.

That’s a really interesting analysis of Regina and Hook. I can see why you see potential for them. At the end of the day though, I think that the fact that they’re both damaged in exactly the same way means that they couldn’t function well together in the long term. I think each of them needs someone with different, more stable traits, to balance out their own personal issues.

She tells him her plan about leaving SB with Hook and Henry, and she explains that there is some kind of mechanism in the curse that will destroy the town if she leaves. That means his crocodile will be destroyed with everyone else left behind. Henry calling her a villain might give Regina pause though, and she decides to back out of the plan…. thus she would have betrayed Hook by doing the right thing for once.

This sounds about right to me. I can see Hook listening to the cases of both Regina and GOAT, and realising that they can both offer dead Crocodile in different ways, so he’ll play along with them both to see which plan will actually pan out. I would hope that Regina would back down from her plan after Henry disapproves, which would leave Hook with only the GOAT option.

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