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Season 5: Ratings News and Discussion

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  • This topic has 371 replies, 19 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by nonnie.
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  • March 21, 2016 at 3:46 pm #319731
    nonnie
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    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/03/21/broadcast-live-7-ratings-feb-29-march-6-2016/

    7 DAY / DVR & STREAMING

    13t ONCE UPON A TIME ABC
    1.3 L+ SD
    2.2 L + 7 day
    0.9 7 day increase
    69% 7 day % increase

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    18-49 demo gain
    23 ONCE UPON A TIME ABC
    1.3 L+ SD
    2.2 L + 7 day
    0.9 7 day increase
    69% 7 day % increase

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    % INCREASE
    25 ONCE UPON A TIME ABC
    4012 L+SD (000s)
    6105 L+7 (000s)
    2093 7-Day Increase (000s)
    52% 7-Day % Increase

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    March 21, 2016 at 3:56 pm #319733
    nonnie
    Participant

    I think the broadcast companies have found other ways of measuring viewership and 7 day readings are one of them. YOUNGER viewers stream or watch DVR on demand viewing …. those numbers get added … when it is 50 to 70% increase … that is a lot of people…. THE DVR and streaming numbers have been increasing over the last 5 years …

    I think same day viewers are composed of families watching together while the DVR and streaming viewers tend to be more individuals and single person viewers.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

    March 21, 2016 at 5:30 pm #319749
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I think the broadcast companies have found other ways of measuring viewership and 7 day readings are one of them. YOUNGER viewers stream or watch DVR on demand viewing …. those numbers get added … when it is 50 to 70% increase … that is a lot of people…. THE DVR and streaming numbers have been increasing over the last 5 years … I think same day viewers are composed of families watching together while the DVR and streaming viewers tend to be more individuals and single person viewers. WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

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    They have found new ways but Ad buyers don’t care. Streaming means nothing to them and they actually hate it (there are no ads in streaming); DVR is fine but you can fast foward (so less money). On Demand is good because it forces you to watch ads.

    It’s all about the ads, Nonnie. It always has been. It doesn’t matter what OUAT does in streaming. The Ad Buyers could care less.

    And that’s a new series low, folks.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 21, 2016 at 5:31 pm #319750
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Also forgot to say: next week is going to be equally icky; it’s Easter

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 21, 2016 at 5:40 pm #319755
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    They have found new ways but Ad buyers don’t care. Streaming means nothing to them and they actually hate it (there are no ads in streaming); DVR is fine but you can fast foward (so less money). On Demand is good because it forces you to watch ads.

    It’s all about the ads, Nonnie. It always has been. It doesn’t matter what OUAT does in streaming. The Ad Buyers could care less.

    And that’s a new series low, folks.

    There actually are ads in streaming, when it comes to Hulu and ABC.com. Even with Hulu’s so called “commercial free” option, ABC primetime shows are exempt from this, and there are still commercials before each episode. AdBlock does not worth with Hulu, either. The real problem is that the ads are not the same ads that were included during the original airing of the episodes, so they can’t be calculated together with the same ratings.

    Yeah, next episode airs on Easter, so it’s sure to be quite painful. It should be noted that NBC and CBS will also be airing new episodes that night, so it’s not just ABC. I will not be surprised to see the show go fractional (as in under a 1.0) for that night, but will likely bounce back up a little the following week, based on what happened the last time the show aired a new episode on Easter.

    March 21, 2016 at 5:45 pm #319759
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    There actually are ads in streaming, when it comes to Hulu and ABC.com. Even with Hulu’s so called “commercial free” option, ABC primetime shows are exempt from this, and there are still commercials before each episode. AdBlock does not worth with Hulu, either. The real problem is that the ads are not the same ads that were included during the original airing of the episodes, so they can’t be calculated together with the same ratings

    Ok I meant streaming as the illegal stuff but if we’re talking legal (Hulu, ect) stuff then, right, but when it comes to the the meat and potatoes of TV ad buying, the ad buyers are really looking at those demos. The network cares more about the streaming stuff (except the illegal sort, I suppose, which has zero commercials) but the ad buyers are fairly traditional I suppose.

    I will not be surprised to see the show go fractional (as in under a 1.0) for that night, but will likely bounce back up a little the following week, based on what happened the last time the show aired a new episode on Easter.

    Based on this week (dropping .2) I’d say we’re going to drop by the same amount, at least, and yes, go fractional. It’s not gonna be pretty. But then we should bounce back at least .1 the following week.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 21, 2016 at 5:48 pm #319761
    PriceofMagic
    Participant

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if the worst episode rating wise of the entire series so far is a Hook episode.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    March 21, 2016 at 9:33 pm #319802
    MatthewPaul
    Moderator

    Based on this week (dropping .2) I’d say we’re going to drop by the same amount, at least, and yes, go fractional. It’s not gonna be pretty. But then we should bounce back at least .1 the following week.

    Here’s something we discussed earlier, that I feel would be appropriate to bring up here. ABC has not had the best luck with their returning dramas this Spring. Scandal, How to Get Away With Murder, and Agents of SHIELD have also returned low after a lengthy winter hiatus. On a related note, OUAT used to be able to inch back up a few tenths following each lengthy hiatus, but that has no longer been the case with Season 5 at all. 5A premiered tying with Season 4’s finale, and 5B premiered tying with 5A’s finale. This is on top of ABC’s new shows failing miserably, with Of Kings and Prophets being the notable recent dud.

    Therefore, I wouldn’t be surprised if ABC re-evaluates whether the split-Season scheduling works for their main dramas. Especially with Channing Dungey recently replacing Paul Lee as their president. They could come to the conclusion that the 3 month hiatuses weaken viewer interest in these shows, and it doesn’t help that the filler programming in-between haven’t entirely done well. Galavant and Agent Carter both under-performed as OUAT and SHIELD’s bridge shows. Now the on-and-off scheduling did have its own share of flaws, hence why the split-scheduling decision was made in the first place. It really comes down to which scenario benefits the network more.

    March 21, 2016 at 9:39 pm #319805
    onceaholic
    Participant

    Wouldn’t it be ironic if the worst episode rating wise of the entire series so far is a Hook episode.

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    Not really. Both the character and the actor are difficult to watch, I find. The episodes with less in them have been the better ones so far.

    Keeper of Regina's bravery

    March 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm #319812
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I wouldn’t be surprised if ABC does test the waters on some shows with the split-season. They’re having a rough year. I just wonder if they’ll try it with shows that are still performing better than others first, to see if that boosts the ratings–Grey’s is probably the best candidate, maybe Scandal. Then if it work, extend it other shows.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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