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December 16, 2017 at 11:58 pm #345196WickedRegalParticipant
They had to have a female protagonist, in my opinion. That is the show. That is the audience.
This is another thing I agree with….since Emma stepped down, there should’ve definetly been another female protagonist to raise up. I know a lot of Evil Regals are trying to say that girl’s Regina, but I don’t think so….Regina’s more of the protagonist’s advisor, their Yoda, much like Supergirl’s Cat Grant was…..and to be honest…..I just hate that it’s Cinderella that Adam and Eddy went for.
Snow White worked because the Evil Queen was an actual believable threat, however I never saw much threat in Lady Tremaine and I still don’t even see any threat from Drizella. Mother Gothel’s a step up, but I think if they really wanted to dig deep into a new story…..they should’ve chosen Sleeping Beauty and revamped Princess Aurora because at least with a new Maleficent, we wouldn’t need all of this unnecessary extra because Maleficent is a great enough threat on her own. And plus, Princess Aurora could’ve been a kick ass with a sword or even one of her godmother’s magic wands….
Not to mention that as much as I have enjoyed seeing what Adult Henry would be like…..a part of me still feels like it was unnecessary much like so much of Season 7. It’s too much crammed into season 7, with little to no detail as to why exactly it needs to be there…..
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December 17, 2017 at 8:31 am #345199hjbauParticipantYeah, i think that once Regina was on the good side, she took over Snow’s job of advice giving and became that character. She has continued being that character during this season, for Henry and Drizella and Zelena and even Rumpel a bit. It can’t be Regina because that has never been the part she has played on the show. The writers definitely haven’t made her the lead now with how little screen time of significance she has been given.
I really think this is the biggest mistake thought. They needed to pick one of the ladies and make them the lead. The lead would have to be in every episode, showing them interacting with all the characters, show them figuring out the mysteries, showing them helping people, showing them standing up to the villains. That character doesn’t really exist anymore. Jacinda has never really been shown to stand up to anyone. Henry hasn’t really either. Jacinda has had a couple of scenes with Drizella in the present day, but hasn’t been part of any of the major plot points with Gothel and Rapunzel. Henry hasn’t either. I am not even sure how aware Jacinda and Henry are of anything that is happening. Drizella has been talking to many characters, but she is crazy. Rumpel is working on the mystery, but he has his own agenda and isn’t helping others. Regina is talking to the most people, at least now that she has her memories, but that has only been the last few episodes. Hook is doing some of the cop stuff, but it has nothing to do with the plot.
Emma in the first episode was questioning what was going on with Regina. She took a chainsaw to her apple tree. She then promptly became the deputy, giving herself power and a reason to be involved with all of the people in town. She was quickly helping others and spending time with Henry and Snow. Emma had fascinating conversations with all of the regular characters, Snow, Regina, Rumpel, Charming, and Henry and is very involved with helping all the others, Red and Granny, the dwarfs, Cinderella 1, Jiminy and Geppetto, Abigail, the Hatter, Hansel and Gretel.
It is almost like they took Emma’s character and split it up and spread out what she did with a bunch of different characters and that just doesn’t work. Jacinda is the mother wanting custody of her child, Drizella is the motherless child, Alice is the street kid, Hook is the cop. That used to all be Emma and the show needed that. The show needs a center.
I agree also with the loss of Storybrooke. In the early seasons, Snow and Emma’s loft, the diner, and the sheriff’s station were in almost every episode and a lot of very important conversations happened in those spaces. There really aren’t those places in the new show and there isn’t that character who you follow around and learn about the world with. It doesn’t work. I am not saying that people had to like Emma, there is a lot to dislike about later season Emma, but Emma served her purpose on the show and that is a necessary purpose on a show like this. I don’t know how they fix it either, but they need to and quickly. Honestly, i think they just have to fix it. Read Jacinda in and involve her with all the characters right now.
December 18, 2017 at 9:14 am #345208AKAParticipant1) What was your favorite episode of S7A? Runner up?
Without a doubt, Beauty. I actually would put this episode in my top 5 of all time. It was wonderfully done by both Emilie and Robert and their chemistry as always was amazing. Runner up would be Wake Up Call.
2) What was your least favorite episode of S7A? Runner up?
The 8th Witch: It was a complete mess and really badly done. I am astounded that it was a Jane Espenson episode probably one of her worst. Runner Up: Pretty in Blue I don’t buy Cinderella and Henry and I think they are trying to shove their relationship down our throats.
3) We met a lot of new characters! Who was your favorite? Least favorite?
Favorite: Alice!!! We need more Alice not Hook’s daughter Alice but Rumple and Alice interactions in HH. They are great together and I really wished she was Rumbelle’s daughter. I love her silliness mixed with sweetness. Least Favorite: Jacinda/cinderella she is plain boring, overly dramatic, and just plain not good. Her and Henry have no chemistry and I really don’t like them together.
4) Who do you miss the most from the first six seasons?
Archie and Leroy. I always believed that OUAT could have done more with their minor characters especially these two.
5) What was your favorite moment of S7A? Least favorite?
Favorite: I think it would be the Rumple and Belle montage it seriously gave me goose bumps and then made me cry like a baby, I loved it. I loved that Rumple finally gave up power for Belle, I loved that Belle was still reminding Rumple that their love was more powerful than the curse, I loved that Rumple has finally accepted that he is truly loved and that he deserved to be loved. The entire episode was really well done
Least Favorite: Anything with Jacinda/Cinderella especially the true love locket.
6) What storyline would you change if you could?
I would have made Lucy adopted and Henry and Jacinda not together
7) What are you hoping for in S7B?
I am interested in the covenant of witches. I hope that we get to see who is in the 8 and why they are important. I also want to see Rumple somehow become mortal, pass on, meet up with Belle and Bae and end his story line.
) Rate and/or grade S7A as a whole!
Despite the last episode which was horrible, I liked most of the season. I think they did a good job giving us characters that we care about, Ivy and Alice and that they are making a good transition to a new show. I wished they had hired a better actress for Jacinda/Cinderella as she is supposed to be a main focus and she is not very good. Overall I would give it a B.
December 18, 2017 at 2:25 pm #345210Jiminy’s JournalParticipantLeast Favorite: “The Eighth Witch;” ye gods, what a mess. There was almost nothing I like about this episode and was mostly grinding my teeth through it all. It was a convoluted mess and apart from Alice and Drizella I find that I don’t like any of these new character or at least have no reason to be invested in them.
Runner up: A Pirate’s Life
Interesting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
December 18, 2017 at 10:39 pm #345220RumplesGirlKeymasterInteresting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
I am genuinely shocked that 710 is Jane’s. Nothing about that episode seemed like her writing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 20, 2017 at 5:30 am #345225ry4christParticipantInteresting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
I am genuinely shocked that 710 is Jane’s. Nothing about that episode seemed like her writing.
I have to wonder how much of the episode was really A&E’s. I think much of it could have been, not only because they always have the final say, but also because A&E have written the mid-season finale episode for every season before this and have only written 1 episode out of 10 so far this season – also unusual – so I wonder if in this episode they especially inserted their writing over Jane’s and Jerome’s.
December 20, 2017 at 10:46 am #345228Jiminy’s JournalParticipantInteresting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
I am genuinely shocked that 710 is Jane’s. Nothing about that episode seemed like her writing.
I have to wonder how much of the episode was really A&E’s. I think much of it could have been, not only because they always have the final say, but also because A&E have written the mid-season finale episode for every season before this and have only written 1 episode out of 10 so far this season – also unusual – so I wonder if in this episode they especially inserted their writing over Jane’s and Jerome’s.
It’s funny you say that, because I think there may be a couple episodes where it may be the other way around.
December 21, 2017 at 8:33 pm #345234ry4christParticipantInteresting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
I am genuinely shocked that 710 is Jane’s. Nothing about that episode seemed like her writing.
I have to wonder how much of the episode was really A&E’s. I think much of it could have been, not only because they always have the final say, but also because A&E have written the mid-season finale episode for every season before this and have only written 1 episode out of 10 so far this season – also unusual – so I wonder if in this episode they especially inserted their writing over Jane’s and Jerome’s.
It’s funny you say that, because I think there may be a couple episodes where it may be the other way around.
Really, why?
December 23, 2017 at 9:21 am #345241Jiminy’s JournalParticipantInteresting, since those are both Espensodes. “Wake Up Call” aside, it makes me wonder if she’s not too fond of this reboot.
I am genuinely shocked that 710 is Jane’s. Nothing about that episode seemed like her writing.
I have to wonder how much of the episode was really A&E’s. I think much of it could have been, not only because they always have the final say, but also because A&E have written the mid-season finale episode for every season before this and have only written 1 episode out of 10 so far this season – also unusual – so I wonder if in this episode they especially inserted their writing over Jane’s and Jerome’s.
It’s funny you say that, because I think there may be a couple episodes where it may be the other way around.
Really, why?
“The Stable Boy” and “Dreamcatcher” just both felt like Espensodes.
December 25, 2017 at 1:34 am #345247ry4christParticipant“The Stable Boy” and “Dreamcatcher” just both felt like Espensodes.
Agreed! They definitely do. I wonder how much the writers give input on episodes that aren’t “theirs.” Have they ever showed behind the scenes of the writing process on any of the season DVD/Blu-ray’s?
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