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My biggest problem, across the board, is that these photos have nothing to do with the show, thematically. Part one of S3 is Neverland; Henry has been kidnapped by two evil minions to be taken to a shadow ripping Peter Pan. His family is looking for him; Belle is in SB and Neal is in FTL trying to get back to his family. How in the world do these pictures demonstrate that?? Emma in a dress-fine. But make it more creative! If you were to show these pictures to someone who has never watched the show before, they’d have no idea who was who or what the theme was for S3. They’d think GG played Aphrodite, not Snow. These pictures are for the fans, to be sure, but also to promote the show for new people. These pics are supposed to be on billboards, ect. Nothing about those individual shots screams “what OUAT!”
THIS! I totally agree!
[adrotate group="5"]Agreed that people shouldn’t be petty in complaining to the actors, or even Adam, because it’s purely up to ABC Publicity what ends up out there as promotion for the show. ABC Publicity have a Twitter account, so if people wanna complain about the quality of the pics to someone in an official capacity, that’s where complaints should be directed. When JMo sent that tweet, I replied that I liked Emma in Snow’s dress, but thought the pic could have been styled more creatively. Styling isn’t up to the actors in that situation though, they’ve just gotta wear and do what they’re told to, so if I thought the pic was blah, it was no fault of JMo’s.
As for them pulling the pics, I think it was the right move. It’s true that fans who had been waiting for the pics had them saved and re-posted all over the internet within minutes of them having gone online, so it’s impossible for them to pretend it didn’t happen, just by taking the pics down. But if I weren’t a diehard viewer, if I were someone who had never seen the show before, and I saw those pics, I’d automatically assume that the whole show was a cheap production and I wouldn’t ever bother watching. If I was a casual viewer, who maybe wasn’t quite as into S2 as I had been S1, and hasn’t been counting down until the S3 premiere, but was probably gonna check it out to give it one more chance to impress me, if I saw those pics, it would not instill me with any kind of confidence that the show was gonna improve in my expectations and I probably wouldn’t bother. And the point of promo pics is to encourage people to watch, not turn them off. So having those pics out there to promote the show probably wasn’t gonna do them any good.
Agreed RG. I showed them to my manager a while ago (who doesn’t watch Once) and she thought they were terribly photoshopped and that the background was awful, possibly even a replacement background! I then showed her Emma/Regina/Hook from last years photos and she said that:
1. Emma looks ridiculous compared to last years great pics
2. Regina looks like a drag queen
3. Hook looks like he’s about 50 years old (biologically)
Yeah, someone (I think Phee?) mentioned that if Emma was fighting against the dress in the NL jungle it would be much better. And I agree, the greenery would add something to the dress, make it less harsh on her.
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Unfortunately, it seems there are some people out there who just hate the fact that she’s in the dress at all. They think it’s completely out of character”.
I’ll admit it, I hate the fact that she’s in THAT dress. Not that I would hate her in any dress. It indicates (for me) a pampered little Emma Charming and not the tough, independant woman we know who likes to dress for comfort and who has a penchant for leather. For me it’s just totally not in character. The colour is all wrong too IMO, in fact I think that it washes her out completely, ESPECIALLY with that awful background. She needs a strong colour, not pastels. It suited Snow White far better, especially with her dark hair.
And then there’s the expression on her face. For me she almost looks serene or something. Not that she’s going to kick butt in Neverland.
Also just to clarify, i don’t blame the cast at all for their icky pictures! It’s totally the ABC promo departments fault. I love how Colin was able to laugh at his photo by retweeting his rock star alter ego!
I get that it’s totally different to how we’ve ever seen Emma before, so it threw some people off because she just looked wrong. I really think it could have been much more successful if the photo was styled completely differently. If they had her with a darker background, the whole look would have probably popped more, instead of making her look washed out. JMo wore a similar shade of purple to CC, and she looked gorgeous in it, so it’s not just the colour of the dress that makes her look bad. They should have given her pose some actual personality. Take this pic from Ginny’s batch last season…
Imagine Emma, in the same pose, same fed up expression, but her hair’s a mess, maybe even a twig or two stuck in it, bottom of the dress dirtied up, sitting on the ground in the jungle, with a pair of princess heels with one of the heels broken. That would have been a fun mirror of last year’s Snow pics, and would have still incorporated Emma’s personality into it. There are just so many better ways they could have used Emma in that dress, which makes the pic we got even more disappointing. Another idea, which I suppose would have cost more, they could have redesigned the dress. Taken off the skirt and turned it into a pair of pants, kept the bodice as a separate corset top. Emma’s still effectively wearing her mother’s princess dress, she’s just turned it into her own style, to illustrate that even though she’s coming to terms with being a fairytale princess, that doesn’t mean it’s gonna change who she is.Last year they also used the set, the actual SB set. They have an NL set. Why aren’t they using it?
On another note: for those of your on Tumblr or fans of photoshop, I’d love to see more of your own artwork for S3 promo photos. I’m convinced bored non-professionals could do a better job.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Imagine Emma, in the same pose, same fed up expression, but her hair’s a mess, maybe even a twig or two stuck in it, bottom of the dress dirtied up, sitting on the ground in the jungle, with a pair of princess heels with one of the heels broken. That would have been a fun mirror of last year’s Snow pics, and would have still incorporated Emma’s personality into it. There are just so many better ways they could have used Emma in that dress, which makes the pic we got even more disappointing. Another idea, which I suppose would have cost more, they could have redesigned the dress. Taken off the skirt and turned it into a pair of pants, kept the bodice as a separate corset top. Emma’s still effectively wearing her mother’s princess dress, she’s just turned it into her own style, to illustrate that even though she’s coming to terms with being a fairytale princess, that doesn’t mean it’s gonna change who she is.
YES! THIS! Ok, I am willing to concede that the dress isn’t so bad. But she has no attitude, no oomph, and that really lets the whole thing down. You really have a vision Phee. I would consider a change of careers if you’re not already in this one 😉
Last year they also used the set, the actual SB set. They have an NL set. Why aren’t they using it?
I’m guessing they don’t want to give anything away. There were a lot of accurate guesses last year. Maybe they don’t want to provide storyline clues?
On another note: for those of your on Tumblr or fans of photoshop, I’d love to see more of your own artwork for S3 promo photos. I’m convinced bored non-professionals could do a better job.
I second this!!!!! 🙂
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@Samus94 I should think they're working on them right now
— Vancity Filming (@VancityFilming) September 13, 2013
Don’t know if this true but thought I’d pass it along.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"If they would of had Emma, mimic more of what Snow’s photo I think it would look better. I don’t want the twigs, dress torn etc that doesn’t add to the photo to me she isn’t running around in NL in a dress, the dress is to symbolize that she is Snow’s daughter a princess like her mother was.
As for David carrying that Bear collar around what would have been nice to see him in the wedding out fit that he wore to Cinderella’s wedding or the outfit he went to save Snow in.
Also, when the next 11 episodes start do they have to create a new set of photo’s or what? If this is for the whole season 3, then they need to consider the photo’s for Season 3. If just for NL then leave the dark colors, jungle look.
Agreed RG. I showed them to my manager a while ago (who doesn’t watch Once) and she thought they were terribly photoshopped and that the background was awful, possibly even a replacement background! I then showed her Emma/Regina/Hook from last years photos and she said that: 1. Emma looks ridiculous compared to last years great pics 2. Regina looks like a drag queen 3. Hook looks like he’s about 50 years old (biologically)
Someone on tumblr actually showed the pics to people she works with who are professionals in this field, and she posted their comments. Lemme see if I can find them again…
…finally found it.On Regina’s photo…
So I just showed the ABC OUAT promo shots to the artists at work – all professional newspaper artists who make our shiny pretty glossy magazine inserts look good. The one they were almost dry retching in horror over was the Regina shot.
Here’s the professionals’ response:
Artist 1 (Head artist who has won international awards): Holy *expletive*! They’ve clearly etched it out. They’ve done a horrible drop shadow as if it’s some cheap clip art.
Artist 2: Someone has no idea. Why’d you do that? WHY?!
Artist 3: Someone junior did this. They should be hung, drawn and quartered. How embarrassing. Tell me this didn’t get released in public?
Artist 4: I just ate lunch. *expletive*
All agreed NO professional media outlet would use this photo.
Oh dear. ABC, what are you doing?
http://scribb1es.tumblr.com/post/61087943696/of-photoshopping-and-bad-promos
On Emma and Snow’s…
I had a request for further feedback from what the professional artists at work think about the other ABC promo pictures. Here is their reply:
EMMA PIC
Artist 1: Much better job (than the Regina photo). She’s a bit too angelic though which makes it freaky. I’d only run it if it had a quirky headline that made its oddness work.Artist 2: She looks pretty pissed off. Is that intentional? If not, bloody hell.
Artist 3: Has she been kidnapped? She looks there against her will. The rout is better quality than the first pic.
Artist 4: Meh. Fake and sugary. Don’t like.
SNOW PIC
Artist 1: That’s really, really weird. Freaky. Offputting. No, I wouldn’t run that.Artist 2: The background effects are unnecessary and crude and way too obvious. They highlight how Photoshopped the photo is. Instead of enhancing the pic, it detracts. Would not use this.
Artist 3: Just no. Too much is never a good thing. Not very professional although not nearly as bad as the first pic of the drop-shadow woman.
Artist 4: What a freak show. Still totally *expletive*.
http://scribb1es.tumblr.com/post/61090633952/the-kidnapped-princess-and-the-weird-lady
And that’s the opinion of actual professionals, not unimpressed fans.
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