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The finale seemed to confirm an idea introduced in the pilot: Rumpelstiltksin can see the future. In FTL, he was able to foresee that he would need the bottle of true love made from the hairs of PC and SW. In FTL, his deal with PC was for him to store the magic egg with the love potion inside of the dragon. He said to PC that he was saving it for a rainy day. Also, in SB, we heard Rumpel say that he knew Regina wouldn’t be able to resist bringing Maleficent over to SB in her dragon form. He knew before Emma and Regina walked in his door that Emma was a true believer and already had PC’s sword on his counter to present to Emma. He knew that Henry would be alright when Emma kissed him. That confirms that Mr. Gold not only designed the curse to be a certain way, but he really did foresee Emma would return on her 28th birthday and the final battle would begin.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
yeah, I’m convinced Rumple could see events unfold in the future. It’s just too much suspension of disbelief to think otherwise.
I think he can see into the future, too, but I also think he has a blind spot with his personal life. That’s why he didn’t know Belle was alive, because she was too close to him.
I was just rewatching the Rumple/Charming scenes and he has to know what the future holds. Plus, as wretched as he is, I can’t see an imp who stopped the Ogre war and led a thousand children from the battlefield would let Henry die. He knew she was going to kiss him. He had to have.
Oh, I just had a thought, but I don’t know how to write it yet. It involves Rumple, seeing the future, and self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe I have to sleep on it.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
I still don’t think he could see the future. I think that he knew what the curse was going to do because he created it. He made the bottle of love from the hairs. He put that dark on the parchment of the dark curse he created so that when he met Emma in Granny’s Inn and heard her name he remembered.
And he even said he knew that the queen would want to bring Maleficent like he knew her well enough to know that she couldn’t help, but to bring her like she was in a different form, and so he knew that the bottle of love would come with her and be safely hidden inside.
I do think that Gold may have known that Henry was just under a sleeping curse and could be woken, but i don’t think he cared about that. I don’t think that Rumpel cared about Henry at all. He only cared about getting the magics so that he could get his power back and go find Bae. Why would Rumpel care about Henry at all? And Rumpel didn’t know about Belle so why would he even care of the curse was broken except for the fact that he wants to leave town?
Even though Rumpel seems to know things since he designed the curse, he could not have planned for Emma to come to SB exactly on her 28th birthday. The show’s executive producers confirmed that he didn’t remember FTL until he met Emma in the pilot, so he couldn’t have planted the book for Henry to find and go looking for Emma. IMO, the only way Rumpel could have known Emma would return exactly on her 28th birthday is if he can see the future. Also, he had Prince Charming’s sword before Emma walked through his door as a true believer, which seems like more than a good guess. I do think Rumpel cares something for Henry since he was key in getting Emma to believe in the first place. Rumpel cared if Henry woke up because Emma had to kiss Henry for the dark curse to be broken, which he seems to have wanted so he could find Baelfire. In episode 8, Rumpel gave Emma the walkies-talkies to have fun with her boy since “they grow up so fast.” I think Rumpel may have been showing his humanity there as he was thinking of his own boy.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
But Rumpel could have designed the curse somehow so that Emma would feel compelled to come back on her 28th birthday. I think that there could be some magic or some sort of destiny behind that. And i think that makes more sense then Rumpel saw it. Even if Rumpel saw the future and saw that Emma came back on her 28th birthday how does that explain how that happened. How did Henry happen to go to Emma on that exact day? There has to be something else at work there, in my opinion then Rumpel seeing the future, because something caused that to happen. The book, Henry, prophecy, magic, there has to be something.
And i still think that Rumpel says things are going to happen and then makes them happen. He says he is going to hit you and then he hits you and that isn’t seeing the future.
And actually i don’t want it to be Rumpel that caused Emma or Henry to come back to Storybrooke. I want there to be another force at play here.
And about the walkies. I still think that Rumpel is listening over them somehow. Henry carries his around in his book bag with him. He had it when he ate the apple turnover. Rumpel could have known that way. Rumpel could have known a lot that way. And i think that makes sense as to why he called Emma to take the walkies. It was there in the hospital when Emma dumped the bag.
Maybe Rumpel does see the future, but there is so much he doesn’t know and there are other ways he could know these things. I just haven’t seen enough to prove he sees the future at all.
I noticed when rewatching the pilot today that Snow mentioned to Charming that “he” can see the future and that is why she had to go see him before the curse was enacted.. so, if that translates into SB I am not sure.. but I feel that it did seeing as though he retained his memories and whatnot.
Snow did say that in the Pilot. I just think she is wrong. I think that Rumpel actualizes the things he says. He makes them happen.
And i don’t think that Rumpel has any magical properties in Storybrooke until the potion was put in the well so i don’t think he could have been doing any “seeing” in Storybrooke. The knife doesn’t work, he has the limp, Rumpel said he wanted magic because he wanted power, he didn’t have his memories until he met Emma. I just don’t think there was any magic there. Most likely he will have magic next season because of the potion in the well, but i don’t think so before now.
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