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November 4, 2013 at 6:31 pm #221118RumplesGirlKeymaster
This occurred to me over dinner (I need a new hobby guys) but Peter Pan said that you can’t see the future in Neverland because Neverland has no future. Does this mean that Peter doesn’t have the gift of sight like many of us speculated over the summer and even before? Many thought that his picture of Henry was drawn from a vision he had of who would have the heart of the truest believer. If Peter doesn’t see the future because he is in Neverland, then who did? Because somehow he has a picture of Henry and he knew that Henry had to be born of Neal and Emma.
The FTL Seer? Blue Fairy (YES)? Another being we have yet to meet?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 4, 2013 at 6:34 pm #221119GaultheriaParticipantMaybe it’s that the past, present, and future all happen at the same time, and Pan knows how to look at it from that perspective, while Rumpel doesn’t.
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November 4, 2013 at 8:52 pm #221139RumplesGirlKeymasterMaybe it’s that the past, present, and future all happen at the same time, and Pan knows how to look at it from that perspective, while Rumpel doesn’t.
Maybe! If that’s true it’s a skill that would take a long time to master and we know PP is really old.
My own headcanon is that PP and the Blue Fairy are working together (Sneaky Fairy is Sneaky) and she’s been delivering news to PP all this time about the goings on in FTL AND she is working with the seer we met in Manhattan who drew the picture of Henry.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 4, 2013 at 9:15 pm #221142kfchimeraParticipantI think he did not forsee Henry, he dreamed him. There is this connection in the “Disney lore” of a dream is a wish a heart makes, and when you wish upon a star your dreams will come true. Dreams are wishes basically if you are magical, but it did take a very long time for it to come true. Avery long time and a lot of planning.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 4, 2013 at 10:02 pm #221150RumplesGirlKeymasterI think he did not forsee Henry, he dreamed him. There is this connection in the “Disney lore” of a dream is a wish a heart makes, and when you wish upon a star your dreams will come true. Dreams are wishes basically if you are magical, but it did take a very long time for it to come true. Avery long time and a lot of planning.
Peter also said that the children used to come to NL in their dreams. Did some sort of Dream Henry come to NL in a dream long ago? What if he was somehow the first child PP dreams in NL?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 5, 2013 at 12:11 am #221186PheeParticipantAll excellent ideas and all plausible IMO.
Is it possible to see the future in other lands if you’re in NL? I’m assuming Rumple was trying to see his future in NL.
I’m still clinging to the crack that the Seer IS Blue.
I’m also into the idea that Milah subconsciously drew the pic of Henry, and Pan got it off the JR. We’ve seen now that Pan knew about Hook way back when he was honourable sailor Killian Jones. I can’t help but wonder if his meeting Milah wasn’t just another pre-destined piece of the puzzle, and Pan totally knew it when he saw him. “Oh heeeyyy, this is the guy who’s gonna get with the woman who’s gonna draw that picture that I need to get my hands on. Good to finally meet him. It’ll now be extra fun for me to see how his screwed up life plays out.”
November 5, 2013 at 6:54 am #221200TheWatcherParticipantI had a theory that this whole future seeing thing is more important than we think. My theory is that the someone is telling the future, not just to Pan and maybe others but also, they are responsible for why we have fairytales from centuries ago even tho in Once they only happened, say a few decades ago. I think someone is letting people, writers etc, in our land know stories that are happening or going to happen in another land and that’s why we are familiar with them here.
I have an idea who/what it is, but for the sake of keeping my crackness classy, I shall not 🙂
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I would LOVE for them to address some day how these stories came to our world in the first place.
November 5, 2013 at 8:18 am #221204KebParticipantWe also know for a fact that Peter was outside of Neverland at least once, when he was the piper. So possibly he has seer abilities, possibly he found a seer to help him, but regardless, perhaps the image was revealed outside of Neverland at some point.
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November 5, 2013 at 8:37 am #221210RumplesGirlKeymasterI have an idea who/what it is, but for the sake of keeping my crackness classy, I shall not 🙂
Oh no no no no. That is not how this works on ONCEpodcast forums. You share that Crack! (also, the frack is your banner?!)
I have an idea who/what it is, but for the sake of keeping my crackness classy, I shall not 🙂
Yeah I think he’s working with the Seer we saw in Manhattan. (or the Seer is Blue in disguise)
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