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Thinking how creepy the “lost boys” are , this reminds me of the novel “Lord of the Flies”. Basically several boys marooned on an island, without leadership or guidance, trying to organize and manage themselves as a civilization but instead turning into a primitive and savage group.
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Demileto noticed the same thing here! Definitely lots of parallels coming!
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It’s totally fine! I was just saying that many people agree. Feel free to keep the conversation going in either. 🙂
It has been a really long time since I read the book. What are some other parallels?"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Lord of the Flies is just such a dark story but It IS a classic story at this point, so I do wonder if they would go there. The boys on the island begin to be paranoid about a monster on the island, and I know they end up killing in fear of it. There are power struggles, group think/dynamics (like say, people who get all cult-crazy…like GOAT.), as well as sacrifices and weird rituals they concoct–to borrow a phrase from RumplesGirl–Oh My Gold….maybe they are going to do a take on it. The last time it was adapted in English for a movie version–the director was Harry Hook.
If they do….I am just… 😮 😯 😮 but kind of excited as well.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
If they can do Frankie I don’t see why they couldn’t parallel Lord of the Flies. They were on LOST after all where Lord of the Flies was often referenced.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I never saw LOST…..hm….maybe they totally are going to reference it. Look out for Ralph, Piggy or Jack as character names and a conch shell …could be clues! I mean, they could just easily have random Lost Ones have those names, and at one point a random set prop of the shell and they’d pretty much weave it in without having to do much.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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I never saw LOST…..hm….maybe they totally are going to reference it. Look out for Ralph, Piggy or Jack as character names and a conch shell …could be clues! I mean, they could just easily have random Lost Ones have those names, and at one point a random set prop of the shell and they’d pretty much weave it in without having to do much.
I doubt they’d be using names from the book, Lord of the Flies isn’t one of those books that are in public domain yet. Especially Piggy, it’s one of those names you’d connect to the book instantly.
When the parallel first came to me, it was because I was getting a total Jack Merridow vibe out of this take of Peter Pan, with the Lost Ones standing in for Jack’s tribe. Bae could easily be a version of Ralph in this world; depending on how depressing the life of the “rest” is (could they be akin to slaves?), Bae could lead them against Peter and his Lost Ones, turning Neverland into a bloody battlefield. For Bae this’d be a really traumatic experience and would explain much of his unwillingness to talk with Rumple in Manhattan – his father would have basically damned him to hell when he let Bae go. For Peter, however, it’d totally be in a twisted take on his character to see this rebellion as an exciting game, something to take him out of his boredom.
Then again, this IS insanely dark, they might not want to go there with the potential to require bloodshed from teenagers or young adults. What I do know is that Bae’s life in Neverland is certain to not be paradise; in fact, it feels too much like prison already.
I have to agree that they wouldn’t be likely to put the effort in to use the character names, as it is not public domain. If they really wanted they could work out rights. I think Time Warner did the last film adaptation. Yet they can get more impact just playing with some of the themes, so why bother?
I first thought of Lord of the Flies as more of a joke, back in the thread after SSTR when we are batting around ideas of why the shadow only wanted boys–before we had seen Felix. I just name checked it off the cuff, and then said it would be terrible. After reading your post running with the idea, and then the discussion here, I like the complexity it could add. Yet it is still a show for 8pm Sunday, and one that wants to put a more hopeful spin in the end, so it will likely just be a background influence (like others have said some of Steven King’s works are in the show–King in turn was influenced by Golding’s novel…). Rumpel’s not the only one with connections!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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Yet it is still a show for 8pm Sunday, and one that wants to put a more hopeful spin in the end
Yeah, I can see them doing a lighter version of this instead of something out of The Hunger Games trilogy. Perhaps Bae’s group gets some victories here and there to keep the hope theme, while still maintaining that vibe that the whole experience is traumatic to him. But in the end, a definite victory would have to be postponed to present day, since Peter appears to be still very much in power in Neverland.
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