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Ok, so going through the site looking at different things like I do I stumbled upon something about Shadow ripping.
Now based on Felix’s reaction plus what we know about PP, so like nothing, I was wondering what Shadow ripping would do to a person.
We know that getting ones heart pulled out results in a couple of things. One if someone holds the heart they can be controlled and have words even put in their mouth. The main other thing was that you can’t feel anything, and if the heart is crushed you die. Also if the heart is dropped or in any other way hurt you would feel it. Also you can have your heart put back in by anybody, but it takes someone with magic to get it out. Emma cant have her heart out, and Cora can raise people to be zombies with the hearts, and Victor can create monsters by putting the heart back into a dead body. And u can make ur heart dark by doing evil things.
Im curious to see if shadows work in similar or more extreme ways. The heart symbolizes love, so with a lack of a heart you have no emotion. Shadows symbolize darkness, fear, the unknown, and one of the core things which humans are. (We are but shadows and dust, latin quote I forget from where) But how would one react without a shadow. If shadows survive from the ripping process they should contain all of ones fears and darkness, and something core to humans. What if that core thing was the ability to tell right from wrong? I believe that while when u have ur heart taken from u u are stripped from free will and emotions, with the ripping of a shadow u are stripped of the ethical decision process as well as being controlled by ur shadow, which would be controlled by ur fear, the fear u no longer possess.
what would this result in? a fearless person who does things only because one who is ruled by fear and need for power tells him. and that person lacks the ability to tell the motivations for their actions, or more so their shadows.
Example, lets say PP had his shadow ripped from him, he is fearless does not fear death, nor capture, nor war, nor Hook, nor Henry. However, his shadow sees that Henry could result in his death. Shadow tells PP to find the boy so they could defeat an enemy which would lead to great fortune, ie Rumple and his powers. PP thinks that Henry will lead Rumple to his downfall, the shadow fears that Henry will be his downfall and controls PP like a puppet, Rumple thinks Henry is his downfall, so does Felix. however Henry ends up being PP’s downfall, b/c of Emma and magic and stuff, and Rumples downfall is from PP, who finds a way to take his powers, without however killing him.
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Interesting. So who ripped PP’s shadow from him and is that figure the big bad?
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Chernabog is my favorite theory of who will be the ultimate big bad. He is Disney’s Satan.
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Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICIf shadows survive from the ripping process they should contain all of ones fears and darkness, and something core to humans. What if that core thing was the ability to tell right from wrong? I believe that while when u have ur heart taken from u u are stripped from free will and emotions, with the ripping of a shadow u are stripped of the ethical decision process as well as being controlled by ur shadow, which would be controlled by ur fear, the fear u no longer possess.
what would this result in? a fearless person who does things only because one who is ruled by fear and need for power tells him. and that person lacks the ability to tell the motivations for their actions, or more so their shadows.
That’s a really cool idea, I love it!
Something else I’ve wondered about with shadow ripping is that Felix told Hook that PP did it to people who lied to him, so it’s obviously done as a punishment, but why would PP deal out that particular punishment? I’d been thinking it probably gave PP some control over the person, so they couldn’t lie to him again. That could tie into this idea about having your shadow removed taking away your ability to make ethical decisions. If a person doesn’t have the ability to question PP’s actions any more, then they also don’t have the ability to lie to and betray him again.
Example, lets say PP had his shadow ripped from him, he is fearless does not fear death, nor capture, nor war, nor Hook, nor Henry. However, his shadow sees that Henry could result in his death. Shadow tells PP to find the boy so they could defeat an enemy which would lead to great fortune, ie Rumple and his powers. PP thinks that Henry will lead Rumple to his downfall, the shadow fears that Henry will be his downfall and controls PP like a puppet, Rumple thinks Henry is his downfall, so does Felix. however Henry ends up being PP’s downfall, b/c of Emma and magic and stuff, and Rumples downfall is from PP, who finds a way to take his powers, without however killing him.
This works for me!
Interesting. So who ripped PP’s shadow from him and is that figure the big bad?
Could (or would) PP have done it to himself?
I think Felix has seen PP rip someone’s shadow, most likely a Lost Boy. I think Devin could be Felix’s younger brother who will end up getting his shadow ripped.
Perhaps shadows are Once’s version of the soul so PP is literally ripping away people’s souls. The shadow that took Bae to Neverland could be PP’s corrupted soul.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixRumplesGirl wrote: Interesting. So who ripped PP’s shadow from him and is that figure the big bad?
Could (or would) PP have done it to himself?
A la Cora? Could be. Cora had someone to teach her though, so I would assume the same for PP.
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