sneak peek

[mich7]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Oh Snow White!! You’re such an awesome person!!
Why was Hook there, that’s my question. He’s part of the Axis of Evil.
And was it Regina or Cora who brought Anton through?

Hook may be the one that lets them know about Anton so they can release him…could be Cora’s plan so that Anton will attack David…maybe a distraction while Cora is up to something else or maybe they think that Anton will actually kill Charming.

And I am loving Snow with the bow.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Poor Anton. He doesn’t really seem to belong anywhere.

Kind of thinking by the end of the episode he may be welcomed in Storybrook.

[RumplesGirl]

Is Jorge sticking around as a guest star for any other episodes? I don’t recall seeing him on casting lists. Maybe he will go back to FTL. Someone needs to get started on taking down those ogres.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Is Jorge sticking around as a guest star for any other episodes? I don’t recall seeing him on casting lists. Maybe he will go back to FTL. Someone needs to get started on taking down those ogres.

I don’t think Anton will stay around SB longer than need be. He’s a giant and so can simply grow some more magical beans, which would allow him to return to the EF with relative ease. I can’t help but wonder why Rumple never thought to gain the trust of this friendly giant? It would’ve saved Rumple a lot of time and energy trying to enact the dark curse. 😉

@Mich7 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Oh Snow White!! You’re such an awesome person!!
Why was Hook there, that’s my question. He’s part of the Axis of Evil.
And was it Regina or Cora who brought Anton through?

Hook may be the one that lets them know about Anton so they can release him…could be Cora’s plan so that Anton will attack David…maybe a distraction while Cora is up to something else or maybe they think that Anton will actually kill Charming.

Yes, I think you’re right. Hook, Cora, and Regina are working together, for sure, as evidence by this image from “Tiny.” Releasing the giant would be the perfect distraction to keep Charming and Co. busy for at least one episode. Plus, with Rumple and Emma, the savior, out of town, Charming and Snow don’t stand much of a chance keeping the “Axis of Evil” in check for long. In the picture, it looks like they’re plotting their next move on a map, or looking for something on it. Regina would know the town like the back of her hand.

The question on my mind is, what is their goal? We know Regina wants Henry back, Hook wants revenge on Rumple, and Cora wants power. What is a way that all three could partner together to get what they all want? They could steal Rumplestiltskin’s dagger! By controling the Dark One, all three can get what they want. We know from spoiler images from The Miller's Daughter that Cora and Regina use their combined magic to enter Mr. Gold's pawn shop and steal the dagger. We also know that Robert and Colin were absent from that scene, so, perhaps Hook is holding Gold captive somehow while Regina and Cora “storm the castle” to steal the dagger.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[Phee]

@timothyjlarson wrote:

Also, wasn’t there a long monologue about the whole jaberwock incident in one of Carrol’s books? It was been so long since I read that, but I seem to recall something about it.

It was a poem in the sequel to Alice In Wonderland…

‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

‘Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!’

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought —
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood a while in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One two! One two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

‘And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
Oh frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!’
He chortled in his joy.

‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Lewis Carroll

In the Tim Burton version, they had Alice kill it in battle, so I’m intrigued that they’ve got a girl killing it in the Onceiverse too.
http://aliceinwonderland.wikia.com/wiki/The_Jabberwocky

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Oh Snow White!! You’re such an awesome person!!
Why was Hook there, that’s my question. He’s part of the Axis of Evil.
And was it Regina or Cora who brought Anton through?

I’m guessing it was Cora who brought Anton, since she was the one who accompanied Hook on his ship to SB. Based on the promo pics, I think Hook is in on Cora’s plan to gain power, which includes using the giant, who has a score to settle with who be believes is Prince James. Also, I think Hook doesn’t want to be under arrest for shooting Belle. Despite fearing Cora, Hook realizes his best chance for freedom and revenge are by being her ally. Plus, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hook might fancy Regina.

It was definitely Cora who brought him. In the original promo (I think) there’s the bit where Hook uncovers the cage and says that he’s her most precious cargo, (or words to that effect). As for what Hook is doing there, perhaps he struck some sort of deal to get back on their good sides so they’d let him go. Let’s not forget the spoiler about him falling in with a righteous crowd.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Poor Anton. He doesn’t really seem to belong anywhere.

They just couldn’t bring themselves to turn dear old Hurley into a nasty guy. 😉

[mich7]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

The question on my mind is, what is their goal? We know Regina wants Henry back, Hook wants revenge on Rumple, and Cora wants power. What is a way that all three could partner together to get what they all want? They could steal Rumplestiltskin’s dagger! By controling the Dark One, all three can get what they want. We know from spoiler images from The Miller's Daughter that Cora and Regina use their combined magic to enter Mr. Gold's pawn shop and steal the dagger. We also know that Robert and Colin were absent from that scene, so, perhaps Hook is holding Gold captive somehow while Regina and Cora “storm the castle” to steal the dagger.

To me the casting sheet made it look like Rumple was hold up in the back room of his shop and Cora (with dagger in hand from the pictures) was trying to break in with Regina to get to Rumple. It also looked like Emma and Neal might have been with Gold in the back room.

I don’t know where Hook might have been…he was not filming that day…it’s possible that Cora might have double crossed him at this point…then again Hook wants revenge not power. If Cora told him that the person that kills the Dark One becomes the new Dark One he might have declined to use the dagger himself and is content with Cora doing the deed.

Then again if Cora is only going to command Rumple and not kill him..Hook may be content to wait a while. If the theories that some have put out there about him trying to seduce Belle to make Rumple suffer even more wind up being true…Colin and Emile might have been filming together during this episode. So many different things they can do lol.

[RumplesGirl]

I agree that Cora wants power, but power over WHAT exactly??
Does she want to control/rule FTL? SB? All the realms? If her goal is to become the Dark One, then why? Rumple became the Dark One to protect Bae, but if that’s her goal then what does she intend to do with it?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[mich7]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I agree that Cora wants power, but power over WHAT exactly??
Does she want to control/rule FTL? SB? All the realms? If her goal is to become the Dark One, then why? Rumple became the Dark One to protect Bae, but if that’s her goal then what does she intend to do with it?

I think she just wants to be the most powerful so that no one can interfere with her when she wants something at any given time…at least from my perspective that seems to be the way they’ve painted her. When we see her backstory my perspective may change.

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I agree that Cora wants power, but power over WHAT exactly??
Does she want to control/rule FTL? SB? All the realms? If her goal is to become the Dark One, then why? Rumple became the Dark One to protect Bae, but if that’s her goal then what does she intend to do with it?

I think Cora wants power in general and power over Rumple specifically. He took her daughter to enact the dark curse and to banish Cora to Wonderland. I also just think Cora wants to rule over SB/FTL in general. Rather than be cursed as the dark one herself, Cora may just seek to control Rumple. She’s always been a social climber and a bit power-hungry. She said to Regina in “The Stable Boy” that power, not love, is what is truly lasting. (I have a side theory that Cora was married to King George once but was then quietly divorced later on. I think Cora thinks love doesn’t last because it didn’t last in her case. She is speaking and acting out of her own pain and her grab for power is a way to protect herself from ever being in a weakened position again). Cora was always pushing for Regina to choose power over love. I think that is still Cora’s guiding principle, and she’s convinced Regina to choose to use power again to get Henry back.

Phee wrote: @slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Oh Snow White!! You’re such an awesome person!!
Why was Hook there, that’s my question. He’s part of the Axis of Evil.
And was it Regina or Cora who brought Anton through?

I’m guessing it was Cora who brought Anton, since she was the one who accompanied Hook on his ship to SB. Based on the promo pics, I think Hook is in on Cora’s plan to gain power, which includes using the giant, who has a score to settle with who be believes is Prince James. Also, I think Hook doesn’t want to be under arrest for shooting Belle. Despite fearing Cora, Hook realizes his best chance for freedom and revenge are by being her ally. Plus, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hook might fancy Regina.

It was definitely Cora who brought him. In the original promo (I think) there’s the bit where Hook uncovers the cage and says that he’s her most precious cargo, (or words to that effect). As for what Hook is doing there, perhaps he struck some sort of deal to get back on their good sides so they’d let him go. Let’s not forget the spoiler about him falling in with a righteous crowd.

I think Hook is awesome at playing every angle to get what he wants. He could be a “double agent’ who claims to come clean to the Charmings but then is secretly allied with Cora and Regina. Hook is on his own team.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

I think Cora wants power over Rumple, who took her daughter to make the dark curse and to banish Cora to Wonderland. I also just think Cora wants to rule over SB/FTL in general. She’s always been a social climber and a bit power-hungry. She said to Regina in “The Stable Boy” that power, not love, is what is truly lasting. (I have a side theory that Cora was married to King George once but was then quietly divorced later on). Cora was always pushing for Regina to choose power over love. I think that is still Cora’s guiding principle, and she’s convinced Regina to choose to use power again to get Henry back.

I’m with you on the power over Rumple, rule SB/FTL. I’m still pretty unconvinced about Cora and George because I tend to see that George, with Rumple’s help, overthrew Henry Sr and Cora after Cora and Rumple had their falling out over baby Regina. I think being a Princess/Queen for a short amount of time turned her power hungry and when she was overthrown she plotted to find a way to reclaim her power/rule. Thus, why she went to such great lengths to make Regina a Queen (making sure Snow’s horse was spooked) and let’s face it: she probably killed Eva. I know a lot of people are on the George/Cora were married bandwagon, I just don’t see it.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[magickingdom]

Great sneak peeks! This episode looks awesome. 😀

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