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@Demileto wrote:

He’s already uneasy with destroying the whole town, sure, but given the almost confirmed surrogate father/son relationship he had with Bae, I see it has highly likely that he’ll face Rumple at some point in the episode, notice how completely broken his enemy is and discover to his horror that the duo that he’d been helping “killed” the boy he once cared for. I think that’ll be the turning point for Hook.

This must happen!!

[Demileto]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I’m going to work with this. Let’s say that’s true, and the fail safe destroys all leftovers of the Curse. Does this mean that people can leave SB for the real world?

Pretty much.

The bottomline is, the barrier of forgetfulness has already fulfilled its purpose in the show. The writers totally created it to postpone Rumple’s journey to find Baelfire to a more appropriate place in the season, and we already got all the story that could come with people forgetting who they really are by crossing it; there’s nothing else that could come out of it that’d be interesting to see, it now only servers to limit the stories the writers can come with. With this Home Office storyline that’ll be expanded in season 3, I’m pretty sure our heroes will be required to venture outside more and more, and the barrier is a problem to that.

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@Demileto wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I’m going to work with this. Let’s say that’s true, and the fail safe destroys all leftovers of the Curse. Does this mean that people can leave SB for the real world?

Pretty much.

The bottomline is, the barrier of forgetfulness has already fulfilled its purpose in the show. The writers totally created it to postpone Rumple’s journey to find Baelfire to a more appropriate place in the season, and we already got all the story that could come with people forgetting who they really are by crossing it; there’s nothing else that could come out of it that’d be interesting to see, it now only servers to limit the stories the writers can come with. With this Home Office storyline that’ll be expanded in season 3, I’m pretty sure our heroes will be required to venture outside more and more, and the barrier is a problem to that.

The only issue I can see with this is from a storytelling perspective. This first half of S2, many people complained about how disjointed the show felt trying to keep up with SB present day, FTL of the past, and FTL of the present. If the non core cast goes outside of SB and they intend to show us them living out in the real world then the storylines would be:
FTL of the past
NL of the past
NL of the present
Real World of the present
(potentially) SB of the past

That seems like a lot.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[kfchimera]

@HappyEndings wrote:

This is what I think will happen with the mermaid thing: Emma will have to kill Ursula, like PC did to the siren in the lake but again I could be wrong. 😕

I like that idea for Season 3 but Ariel also has to be involved!

So many ideas and thoughts, and I think seeing the fairy tale characters out in the real world would provide tons more of fun scenes ala Gold in the airport. Just imagine Grumpy….anywhere.

Anyway, what exactly does “your kind” mean to Tamara and Greg? What kind is that?
Does she mean people not born on earth? Magical people and mythical creatures? Or even more creepily, fairy tale characters brought to life who only think they are people?
This doesn’t rule out Tamara being Robin Hood’s daughter, because it is possible Tamara knows but is willing to die for her cause, or she doesn’t know about her background but was raised to hate magic in an ironic twist.

That leads me to this–what if Tamara was sent through like Emma with one of the beans that “got away” from BF, but was adopted by the Home Office people. We have yet to see how Henry ended up in SB, so they could do a parallel story on her background and Henry’s next season. I don’t expect Tamara to be around much, mind you, but like Cora, I expect there’ll be a pity party for her before she’s gone.

We’ve already seen Rumpel’s not in vengeance mode to lay the smack down on her. I’d like Hook to be in part motivated by Bae’s “death”, with his switch but I also don’t want him going down the dark vengeance path yet again. This is where I expected him to turn the corner and join the good guys. Someone will get their Goat (hah hah) soon enough, but I don’t want Rumpel or Hook to get lost in the anger again.

“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

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This doesn’t rule out Tamara being Robin Hood’s daughter, because it is possible Tamara knows but is willing to die for her cause, or she doesn’t know about her background but was raised to hate magic in an ironic twist.

That leads me to this–what if Tamara was sent through like Emma with one of the beans that “got away” from BF, but was adopted by the Home Office people. We have yet to see how Henry ended up in SB, so they could do a parallel story on her background and Henry’s next season. I don’t expect Tamara to be around much, mind you, but like Cora, I expect there’ll be a pity party for her before she’s gone.

Oh. Ooooh. Ooh. Nice. And this plays into a nice theory someone had the the Home Office was responsible for Henry’s adoption.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Demileto]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

The only issue I can see with this is from a storytelling perspective. This first half of S2, many people complained about how disjointed the show felt trying to keep up with SB present day, FTL of the past, and FTL of the present. If the non core cast goes outside of SB and they intend to show us them living out in the real world then the storylines would be:
FTL of the past
NL of the past
NL of the present
Real World of the present
(potentially) SB of the past

That seems like a lot.

I don’t see why would the non core cast leave town. If my theory is correct, the barrier of forgetfulness would come down as a consequence of the prevention of Storybrooke’s destruction; there won’t be a need for them to flee to, say, Boston, and I think the town’s people have already adjusted to their new life as Storybrookers that they won’t go in a hysterical exodus like they almost did in “We Are Both”.

I don’t think we’ll be seeing SB in the first half on season 3. There’s no real point to bring the whole main cast to another land to stay there for only one or two episodes. Further proof of this, to me, is Vancity’s recent article in his site questioning if OUAT’s still going to use Stevenson as a filming location.

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I don’t see why would the non core cast leave town. If my theory is correct, the barrier of forgetfulness would come down as a consequence of the prevention of Storybrooke’s destruction; there won’t be a need for them to flee to, say, Boston, and I think the town’s people have already adjusted to their new life as Storybrookers that they won’t go in a hysterical exodus like they almost did in “We Are Both”.

I don’t think we’ll be seeing SB in the first half on season 3. There’s no real point to bring the whole main cast to another land to stay there for only one or two episodes. Further proof of this, to me, is Vancity’s recent article in his site questioning if OUAT’s still going to use Stevenson as a filming location.

Ah, I see.
I don’t think we’ll see much of SB at all of S3 but I’m still of the opinion that SB is going to explode in this episode.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I forgot about the baby. Ok, then I think Snow means everyone who has FTL blood in them, because leaving Henry alive with the baby doesn’t make much sense.
Shoot. I’ve been theorizing that Tamara is the daughter of RH and Marian which totally makes her FTL by blood but not born here. ARg.

I think it was very carefully worded. Snow said, “everyone not born in this world.” That means the physical location of one’s birth is what matters, not where their parents come form. So, I believe Henry would be safe, and so would Tamara, even if her parents are Robin Hood and Marian, so long as she were born in A Land Without Magic.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I forgot about the baby. Ok, then I think Snow means everyone who has FTL blood in them, because leaving Henry alive with the baby doesn’t make much sense.
Shoot. I’ve been theorizing that Tamara is the daughter of RH and Marian which totally makes her FTL by blood but not born here. ARg.

I think it was very carefully worded. Snow said, “everyone not born in this world.” That means the physical location of one’s birth is what matters, not where their parents come form. So, I believe Henry would be safe, and so would Tamara, even if her parents are Robin Hood and Marian, so long as she were born in A Land Without Magic.

Yes because this is an Adam and Eddy episode, I’d like to think that they chose the words very carefully. And I still think RH and Marian escaped to A Land Without Magic right after the events of Lacey and thus Tamara was born here. I really hope we’re proved right in this upcoming episode…

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MysteryKat25]

Good points Dimileto.

As much as I love SB I kinda hope they don’t so that people don’t get *quite* so much behind the scenes things out so fast. I like speculating about the next ep, not what’s happening 5 eps from now as it spoils a lot of the theorizing fun in between / makes some people not really want to watch until the ep that sounds the best to them is around and it got really frustrating especially early on this season. (Not to mention the constant “Colin hasn’t been seen” threads when somebody was supposed to die).

People always forget about green screen work too and if they had more on green screen – with a higher budget courtesy of not having to rent / redress Steveston all the time the green screen stuff might be better…- then maybe people would actually watch live more too if they weren’t sure they knew pretty much the entire episode weeks in advance. With how much we speculate over everything we know, sometimes there’s a little too much known about episodes so I could see this being a positive – a frustrating one because we want info, but one that makes the overall viewing experience + the ratings better in the longrun. If it can keep us guessing more that’s a good thing.

I agree that it wouldn’t make sense to have everybody leave (and there’s no way everybody would fit on the JR either, unless somebody shrunk them all or something which would be stupid), so hopefully we’ll focus on our main cast in NL.

I don’t see them killing off the rest of the town because we know that, big characters or not, they are all from fairy tales and that would be too sad to wipe them all out of existence. I like the idea of hte barrier being broken down but them choosing to stay there. They could have some characters (like Granny for instance) who choose to stay in SB and hold down the fort while the others go after Henry.

It makes sense that only the core cast is on the boat because they are all family or serve some useful purpose in going. I just hope they explain why Red is staying in SB and not going with them (as far as we know). I know the actress has another gig but is supposed to still be seen from time to time (assuming the pilot is picked up) so we have to accept the fact that Red isn’t tagging along even though a wolf might be useful to have help….like in that other sneak where just Charming & Hook are fighting GOAT, but we have to make allowances for the actress too). I just want there to be logical reasons for those who remain. IE: if Snow asks her to stay and protect the rest of the town or something. Ruby was never too thrilled at the idea of going anyway until outsiders became a threat. If that threat is neutralized by them going elsewhere, then she can live a peaceful existence in SB until the time comes where that is no longer the case. Snow trusts her more than most so I could see her telling Ruby it’s ok to stay here and keep an eye on things while Snow goes off with her family. There’s MORE than enough “cooks in the kitchen” that will be butting heads on the journey as it is. I could see Granny, Ruby, the dwarfs and Anton staying behind to keep everybody else safe as long as they don’t feel threatened by being there anymore (ie: failsafe is definitely dead and the outside world isn’t attacking them. We have no reason right now to believe they went along and they’re all very trusted by Emma and the rest).

Seriously, can you imagine Rumple, Regina, Snow, Charming, Emma, & Hook in tight quarters? All with a different idea of how to save Henry? Of how to do…basically anything? There should be some good drama and I’m looking forward to seeing this group a) have to work toward a common goal and b) hopefully this will give them all a chance to actually TALK.

The one thing I did like about earlier in the season was that the separation from everybody else forced Emma & Snow to bond. We need her bonding with Charming too so hopefully we get that a bit more in S3 (and a little less of Snow being patronizing…I think Charming is trying to balance out the parental units attacking Emma and forcing her to get close to them so he stays back a bit more knowing that Snow likes to push things. I think they’ll naturally come together in the near future (start of S3 probably) but we saw a little bit of that recently too so that’s good.

I was hoping for more of that to happen when Cora sent Emma & Neal to a random spot in the woods as I figured they’d have to walk back and actually talk but that didn’t happen. Perhaps with the group of core cast together, people will get a chance to really talk.

That being said…if the titles are any indication of the proper directions of how to get to Neverland, I don’t think they’ll be on the ship for very long. The directions pretty much say you’ll be there in the morning (unless Hook tells them differently and says that those are just “guidelines” in which I will crack up at Captain Jack Sparrow-Lite).

So we may only get a short amount of time with them all trapped together but it could still be very amusing / enlightening for the different combinations we might get. (Look how amusing Gold on a plane was and there wasn’t much of him sitting there at all but that face was priceless. Now we have a group of antsy people including some who have never been to Neverland, all coping with loss and fear and a mission. So many feelings!)

The wording is definitely interesting and since it is an H&K ep I hope that it was done for a reason. Also, I totally forgot about Alexandra! *smacks forehead* But yeah, let’s not do a repeat of child taking care of child in a world all alone. (Though I think he’d do a better job of it than Pinocchio did, especially since he knows the consequences of that. The only thing I loved about young Pinocchio was the cuteness when he actually was still with baby Emma. Then it all went downhill).

As for Tamara I’m not sure we’d get confirmation either way because if she goes through a portal then she’s not exactly around to either be saved or die with the rest.

I’m kinda liking the idea of the core cast going off for awhile and not seeing SB for a bit and then them coming back. Still not sure about the failsafe though because usually if you show something like that is around, you use it. At some point it does get used and I don’t think on this show that it won’t come into play somehow. The candle did, the de-aging thing Rumple mentioned to Smee did (in a roundabout way courtesy of Blue but it still happened) etc etc. So I feel like it pretty much has to go off eventually…hmm.

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