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March 23, 2013 at 12:53 pm #181762oncerParticipant
Ok I’m with David, that was HARSH
[adrotate group="5"]March 23, 2013 at 1:46 pm #181767PriceofMagicParticipantI think Emma has a point. What Charming is doing isn’t helping Snow in the long run, Snow is the only one who can help herself.
Also it seems like what is eating Snow up isn’t the fact Cora is dead but that she used Regina to kill her own mother.
All magic comes with a price!
Keeper of FelixMarch 23, 2013 at 3:03 pm #181775laurieanneParticipantI agree, Price of Magic. It was the way she went about killing Cora-using Regina and preying upon her feelings. Yes, we have seen Regina and Cora do this same type of manipulation many times (Jefferson, Belle, Cora to Regina) in order to get what they wanted, but it has never resulted directly in murder. Charming told Snow at their wedding, “Don’t stoop to her level,” and that’s exactly what she did. Am I happy Cora is dead? YES. Am I happy Rumple is alive? YES YES YES. How else could that have been accomplished? Snow had the idea to change Cora for good and let Rumple die but he appealed to her sense of family (Henry) and she let him live. He owes her big time.
March 23, 2013 at 5:45 pm #181798astrawoidParticipant@PriceofMagic wrote:
Also it seems like what is eating Snow up isn’t the fact Cora is dead but that she used Regina to kill her own mother.
I agree with this 100%. I don’t think Snow feels badly that Cora is dead. In fact, she knew it would probably be necessary to keep her family and Storybrooke safe. But manipulating Regina and using her need for her mother’s love to trick her into killing her own mother is what Snow can’t seem to deal with. It is completely the opposite of how she normally operates. It’ll be interesting to see how Snow decides to deal with her own actions and what the real repercussions (the price) of what she did will be.
"We were happy."
"Because... it was born out of true love."March 23, 2013 at 6:08 pm #181800HappyEndingsSpectatorHas anyone notice that David is the one protecting Emma not Neal especially in the Gold’s shop Neal just jumped out of the way of the fire ball but David was able to block it with his sword. After rewatching the well scene with Henry again it was David that was in the front, good old Neal was behind David not really protecting Emma. 😕
March 23, 2013 at 6:40 pm #181802kfchimeraParticipant@HappyEndings wrote:
Has anyone notice that David is the one protecting Emma not Neal especially in the Gold’s shop Neal just jumped out of the way of the fire ball but David was able to block it with his sword. After rewatching the well scene with Henry again it was David that was in the front, good old Neal was behind David not really protecting Emma. 😕
That did not stand out to me, but I think it is the effect of the writers trying to give David some heroic moments. There may also be trying to show different level of protectiveness toward Emma, since David is her father, and he is sort of in that old-fashioned fairytale Knight in Shining Armor mindset. Neal’s spent more time in the modern world. He may respect or be aware more of Emma’s ability to take care of herself more than David might.
As for that scene, I saw it like David is the type to lead and charge in. David is eventually flung out of Gold’s shop. After that Neal and Emma are shown working as a team, not Neal constantly hiding behind Emma. At the well, I thought Emma seems to pull Neal back from trying to rush forward, but I have to watch it again. If so, then she is sort of protecting him from doing something that might trigger Regina to attack.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 23, 2013 at 6:54 pm #181804HappyEndingsSpectatorHere is the link KC if you want just rewatch the well scene
March 23, 2013 at 7:26 pm #181808kfchimeraParticipantI watched the well scene again. Neal is behind Emma and David, but when Henry steps in the middle, he does try to move forward. Emma stops him.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 23, 2013 at 7:31 pm #181809HappyEndingsSpectatorBut instead of jumping in front of David do save them all Neal hides behind David. Like I said Emma might have been killed in Gold’s shop if David didn’t protect her Neal just jumped in the opposite direction, Neal is just a coward in my opinon. 👿
March 23, 2013 at 8:55 pm #181812kfchimeraParticipant@HappyEndings wrote:
But instead of jumping in front of David do save them all Neal hides behind David. Like I said Emma might have been killed in Gold’s shop if David didn’t protect her Neal just jumped in the opposite direction, Neal is just a coward in my opinon. 👿
That’s fine, but I don’t think it is the opinion the writers expected viewers to have. That was one moment in a long scene. If the writers wanted us to think Neal is a coward, they would not have shown him fighting in Gold’s shop at all. They could have put him cowering in a corner or something.
Then at the well, Regina and Emma have magic and David has a gun. Neal does not have magic, or even a sword as he did in Gold’s shop. You think he is a coward, but I think he’s being smart, especially to avoid standing in front of the guy with the gun.
Maybe it is just a cultural difference thing, some idea that the man has to actively defend the woman, or he is a coward, even if the woman in question is better suited to defending herself and him. David comes from that kind of mind set a bit, the traditional Knight in shining armor role, but Emma is no helpless damsel in distress. It’s one of the great things about her, I think, that she is plenty brave all on her own. I know the writers have to juggle the traits of the characters somehow, and sometimes maybe one character comes off poorly in order for others to shine. We’ll have to see more of Neal before I will write him off as just a coward because he doesn’t try to rush headlong into danger the way Charming does.
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“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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