Snow White/Mary Margaret Character Analysis

[Slurpeez]

I think the big deal with the Lily Egg is that it crosses some sort of understandable line. You said “good guys make mistakes” and absolutely they do. But where’s the line between understandable mistake and unforgivable error? I just think there’s something wrong when in order to give the villains sympathy you have to tear down the people who are the definitive heroes of the show. But you’re right that it was also just a really horribly plotted storyline that made Snowing look more like villains but also like bumbling fools (putting darkness into a dragon strikes you as a good idea…?)

Right, it was done to tear down the heroes in order to make the villains look better by comparison, but all it did was serve to undermine the show’s originally heroic couple and the message about goodness, hope, and true love.

I think what they wanted to set up for Snowing was an impossible choice: like would you sacrifice someone else’s child if it would give yours a chance? Essentially, something that would pit one’s core principles against one’s deep seated instinct to do everything to protect one’s kid. But it didn’t work — the muddled talk about “potential for darkness,” rather than a more concrete, visceral threat just made Snow and Charming come across as privileged jerks, literally taking advantage of someone they described as ‘not even human’ (or something like that) to slightly bend luck in Emma’s favor. It was just over the top, and made Snow seem like the spoiled brat she used to be.

Snow and Charming have faced some impossible decisions before, but usually it showed them making sacrificial decisions. The pilot showed them putting their newborn daughter into a wardrobe. That may seem like a horrible parenting decision, but they really had no other choice. It may even have been a selfless choice: they did it to give Emma her best chance, as Henry explained, and in order to make sure Emma broke the curse. Emma said that at least they would’ve been together had her parents not put her in the wardrobe, but that view is false. Regina’s guards either would surely have killed baby Emma at worse, and at best, Emma would have been cursed along with her parents. There’s no way Regina would’ve allowed Snow to remember having a child, and Emma’s being cursed would have meant there would have been no savior. So, either she’d have been killed or stuck as a perpetual infant for all eternity. By contrast, the writers choosing to have Snow and Charming exorcise their unborn daughter by putting her potential for darkness into an innocent is incredibly selfish (not to mention incredibly stupid as @RG pointed out). Did they really stop and think that through? How does putting evil into a dangerous creature like a dragon-hybrid make any sense? *head desk*

[WickedRegal]

RumplesGirl wrote:

I think the big deal with the Lily Egg is that it crosses some sort of understandable line. You said “good guys make mistakes” and absolutely they do. But where’s the line between understandable mistake and unforgivable error? I just think there’s something wrong when in order to give the villains sympathy you have to tear down the people who are the definitive heroes of the show. But you’re right that it was also just a really horribly plotted storyline that made Snowing look more like villains but also like bumbling fools (putting darkness into a dragon strikes you as a good idea…?)

Right, it was done to tear down the heroes in order to make the villains look better by comparison, but all it did was serve to undermine the show’s originally heroic couple and the message about goodness, hope, and true love.

nevermore wrote:

I think what they wanted to set up for Snowing was an impossible choice: like would you sacrifice someone else’s child if it would give yours a chance? Essentially, something that would pit one’s core principles against one’s deep seated instinct to do everything to protect one’s kid. But it didn’t work — the muddled talk about “potential for darkness,” rather than a more concrete, visceral threat just made Snow and Charming come across as privileged jerks, literally taking advantage of someone they described as ‘not even human’ (or something like that) to slightly bend luck in Emma’s favor. It was just over the top, and made Snow seem like the spoiled brat she used to be.

Snow and Charming have faced some impossible decisions before, but usually it showed them making sacrificial decisions. The pilot showed them putting their newborn daughter into a wardrobe. That may seem like a horrible parenting decision, but they really had no other choice. It may even have been a selfless choice: they did it to give Emma her best chance, as Henry explained, and in order to make sure Emma broke the curse. Emma said that at least they would’ve been together had her parents not put her in the wardrobe, but that view is false. Regina’s guards either would surely have killed baby Emma at worse, and at best, Emma would have been cursed along with her parents. There’s no way Regina would’ve allowed Snow to remember having a child, and Emma’s being cursed would have meant there would have been no savior. So, either she’d have been killed or stuck as a perpetual infant for all eternity. By contrast, the writers choosing to have Snow and Charming exorcise their unborn daughter by putting her potential for darkness into an innocent is incredibly selfish (not to mention incredibly stupid as @RG pointed out). Did they really stop and think that through? How does putting evil into a dangerous creature like a dragon-hybrid make any sense? *head desk*

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I never saw Snow White really as the innocent good girl you guys have, not even really in Season 1. I’ve been telling you guys something was fishy about Miss Sandra Dee, but noooo….Lol! As for David, I think like @PriceofMagic said, he sort of just follows along with whatever Snow White says, he has no mind of his own apart from his spouse! David is basically crawling while carrying Snow White on his back, that’s their relationship.

While I do agree they were thoroughly character assassinated, I don’t think Adam and Eddy had to do too much to ruin the self-righteous, self preserving, secret telling Charmings.

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[Marty McFly]

I think this is the satire they are trying to convey. They are making fun of the EF veiw of villains vs heros, good vs evil, etc. They are trying to show that the ONLY difference between “good” and “evil” is what one believes about himself. Since Snow loves herself and is SURE that she is a good person, she overcame any guilt feelings for any questionable acts she committed. Snow is objectively NOT white but because she BELIEVES that she is, her self confidence radiates from her and causes others around her to believe as well

[Marty McFly]

This show is alot about belief. More so than hope, even.

Regina finallly believed that she deservs happiness, she realized that she actually HAD it and didn’t need the author, for example

[Bar Farer]

I’m glad to see inconsistencies still happen on this show.

Snow White wants to teach again, apparently she has forgotten she was a teacher in 4B.

However, in season 5B she said she doesn’t want to be MM anymore, well MM was the teacher, not Snow White. Snow White was the leader, the ruler, remember the last time she tried to be a ruler? In season 4A when she tried to be the mayor of Storybrooke.

Nice to see that past seasons has no effect on her, as if they never happened and ultimately becoming pointless.

"All your questions are pointless"

[thedarkonedearie]

Ok, but before. she taught as Mary Margaret.  Even in season 4 she still clung on to the persona.  She now has fully done away with Mary Margaret and has embraced teaching as SNOW WHITE.  I think it is different and I’m not sure the inconsistencies are valid.  And even though she taught in season 4, we didn’t see her actually teaching the kids in the classroom and doing a lesson.  It was really nice I thought.

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