Snowing and Ursula/Cruella

[Felie]

Felie wrote:

What? Like Snow was actually pregnant with two babies but they had to sacrifice one to save the other, by using one twin as a bargain for the magical tree stump…? Could it be lily? Twins separated at birth <– have we had this yet?

You know, I was wondering if Emma had a twin.

But the thing is, in the pilot we saw Emma’s birth and her being put in the wardrobe happen very quickly within a few minutes. I guess that if they are twins, that Lily is the older one. The is the only way that scene can be retconned.

Yeah, people would have known she was pregnant with twins, and we would have heard of a dead baby by now.

Whatever it is though I hope it’s juicy!

[PanTheMan]

Since Ursula and Cruella haven’t aged, they couldn’t have been in A Land Without Magic for too long.

Maybe Snow and Charming had a chance to reunite with Emma in our world, but something happened, and it was Cruella and Ursula who came to our world instead.

Snow and Charming don’t want Emma to know bc once again they chose to do the right thing rather than do what’s right for their daughter.

 

Just a theory. I admit, secret baby would be more dramatic. But I want to know how Ursula and Cruella came to our world and when.

[TheWatcher]

I will REALLY dislike both Snow and Charming if that is the case. Bt then again the spoilers did say the secret would make us look at them differently…. I really hope Lily and Emma aren’t in any way related. Because that would so sink my SwanStar ship :3

"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
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[Slurpeez]

I think the secret is something to do with Emma herself. I think Snow knew while she was pregnant about her unborn daughter having the potential for the greatest darkness. Perhaps she convinced Charming that they had to perform some sort of exorcism on their unborn child, and so they went to the QoD for help. Rumple knows about Emma having a heart with a potential for darkness, so perhaps there was some prophesy involving the savior and an anti-savior (aka Lily). If Lily is the sister of Emma, then it would be all the juicer (though totally over-the-top as far as ret-conning goes).

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Perhaps she convinced Charming that they had to perform some sort of exorcism on their unborn child, and so they went to the QoD for help. Rumple knows about Emma having a heart with a potential for darkness, so perhaps there was some prophesy involving the savior and an anti-savior (aka Lily).

Headcanon: accepted. I think that sounds just about right

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

I had an idea that they crossed and Sbowing escape by promising them their first born son (knowing they would have a daughter so it was a trick) and whatever happened basically made them end up in our land. Now that they are back and snowing actually has a son, things are gonna hit the fan.

I quite like this idea. I can see why Snow would want to keep that secret from Emma. However, trading first borns seems to be treading too much on Rumple’s territory. Just a thought, what if it wasn’t so much first born son but first born male which would mean it would be HENRY that was the bargain. That would explain why Snow really really doesn’t want Emma to find out.

All magic comes with a price!

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[WickedRegal]

@Slurpeez’s idea….I think that’s where we’re headed. It would really explain why Snow was so determined to keep Oliver all to herself if she had already lost her first born daughter as well as her second!

But…I think a hinting to this direction would have been useful when Snowing was under the Shattered Sight Spell.

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[RumplesGirl]

@Slurpeez’s idea….I think that’s where we’re headed. It would really explain why Snow was so determined to keep Oliver all to herself if she had already lost her first born daughter as well as her second! But…I think a hinting to this direction would have been useful when Snowing was under the Shattered Sight Spell.

…Oliver?

You baby Snowflake?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[WickedRegal]

WickedRegal wrote:

@Slurpeez’s idea….I think that’s where we’re headed. It would really explain why Snow was so determined to keep Oliver all to herself if she had already lost her first born daughter as well as her second! But…I think a hinting to this direction would have been useful when Snowing was under the Shattered Sight Spell.

…Oliver? You baby Snowflake?

Yeah…that’s right! Baby Snowflake!! I either said Oliver because I’m thinking about Arrow on Wednesday or because Josh and Ginny named their son Oliver! My mistake! 🙂

And Lana just released some info concerning Regina…so I may have to pull out the Lily being Snowing daughter for a second, least for a couple of episodes.

"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

[Josephine]

I cannot admit here what blurted out of my fingers and onto the keyboard at the Snowing/QoD confrontation. 😛 RG knows but might hurt me if I type it. 😉

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