So everyone's just going to take Zelena's word?

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Zelena was already in the castle and crossed the blood magic barrier and hijacked it before she even had Regina’s blood from the monkey the first time (when we see the monkey dropping the blood into the vial).

I think you’re wrong, and here’s why:

It should be pretty clear, that the “protection spell” (as Regina called it!)  around the castle and the “Blood Magic Lock” for the crypt are two completely different things and not connected!

Regina at once knew that someone “hijacked” her protection spell and she told the others. She was clearly pissed off about it, but she wasn’t surprised that someone could do it. Contrary to that, when standing in front of the open crypt door, Regina said to Robin Hood something like “That’s not possible! I sealed it with Blood Magic and I’m the only one who can open it”.

THAT is what Zelena needed “The Evil Queen’s” blood for, so I still doubt that they are sisters. Zelena is lying. If she really was her sister, she wouldn’t have needed the blood.

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3princesses wrote:

Zelena was already in the castle and crossed the blood magic barrier and hijacked it before she even had Regina’s blood from the monkey the first time (when we see the monkey dropping the blood into the vial).

I think you’re wrong, and here’s why: It should be pretty clear, that the “protection spell” (as Regina called it!) around the castle and the “Blood Magic Lock” for the crypt are two completely different things and not connected!

 

That was actually me, not 3princesses who wrote that 🙂 lol
I rewatched the scene and you’re correct, there is no mention of blood magic for the protection spell.
However, I still have yet to hear any theories on who the baby is then that Cora had, since we do know in an upcoming episode flashback, young Cora is giving birth. Rose McGowan posted the picture on instagram back when the episode was being filmed. http://instagram.com/p/kah0nbgYmI/
What is the running theory, then, if Zelena is lying, about who this baby is, if this baby is not Zelena? I am not saying it is impossible she is lying, especially given that the protection orb spell was not a blood magic barrier. But I am wondering what the line of thinking is about this. It has been thoroughly discussed in the filming thread and widely accepted that this baby is not Regina since it appears young Cora is still in peasant clothing and has burlap pillows, ect. If not Regina, and if not Zelena.. then who?

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My first initial thought was that Zelena is not Regina’s sister, but the jilted fiancé or promised one (like through an arranged marriage) of King Leopold’s. That Leopold was to marry Zelena (or so she though) but when Regina saved Snow he changed his mind. And now Zelena wants everything Regina has/had because in her mind it should have been hers. As to how she got to Oz (born there, wizard her father maybe) or why she’s green (green with envy literally) I don’t know. Just my first knee jerk thought as to who she is and the reason for her going after Regina. Hell hath no fury….

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It should be pretty clear, that the “protection spell” (as Regina called it!) around the castle and the “Blood Magic Lock” for the crypt are two completely different things and not connected!

Regina’s lock on the crypt door, and the lock on her office in SB were both blood magic. The protection spell Regina left around the castle was essentially a lock as well, so I think it’s safe to assume that that was also blood magic. There’s no way Regina would have risked ANYONE being able to break into her castle, so she’s gonna use blood magic to keep people away from it IMO.

does it matter weather Regina found out now or later when she’s going to forget and have to go through the whole thing again.

I think they did the sister reveal this early to amp up the tension as we watch the SB stuff. Regina’s trying to figure out who cast the Curse, doesn’t have any idea, but the audience now knows that the person she’s looking for is her sister. Adds another layer to the storytelling as we watch Regina try to figure it out while being in the dark about the facts. They’re doing a similar thing with her and Robin too, where the audience knows who he is in regards to her, but she has no clue.

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Regina’s lock on the crypt door, and the lock on her office in SB were both blood magic. The protection spell Regina left around the castle was essentially a lock as well, so I think it’s safe to assume that that was also blood magic.

I completely agree on that first sentence, but the rest doesn’t make any sense. ;o)

Again: Regina was totally perplexed and couldn’t believe, that anbody had entered the crypt (Blood Magic), but she immediately “accepted” it, that someone “hijacked” the protection spell (outside the castle). I didn’t hear Regina say something like “That’s not possible” in that scene – like she did in the crypt! Instead, when standing in front of the “magic shield” (It’s NOT a lock, it’s a shield)  with the others, she was just like “Oh my! Someone hijacked my protection spell. Well, that sucks…” See the difference in that?

Also: Do you know how Blood Magic works?Well I sure as hell don’t! But…I have a theorie… ;o)

So Zelena was able to perform almost the same trick as for the crypt (Blood Magic) again in the Mayor’s Office, but that doesn’t prove anything. I think that Zelena needed to drink the “potion”, which she made with Reginas blood, just once – and now it works forever. You know what I mean? You drink that person’s blood just one time, but from that moment on you can unlock the person’s Blood Magic whenever you like. That’s how I see it…

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these are very interesting theories. but now I have another question: why would Zelena WANT to go into that crypt? if Cora was nothing to her, why would she want to break the blood magic to get to Cora? unless she has some “dead people” magic that she was going to use on Cora’s body and when she saw Cora wasn’t there, she decided to curse everyone to storybrooke so she can get at Cora’s body?

if those Suggestions in the promos are correct, and she is trying to seduce Rumpel, could it be that she is really jealous of Cora, not Regina, but since Cora is dead she is taking it out on Regina instead?

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these are very interesting theories. but now I have another question: why would Zelena WANT to go into that crypt? i

Yeah this is a really important question. There are two options, I think

1) Zelena is telling the truth and she went into the crypt to see where Cora was laid to rest in the EF

2) Zelena is NOT telling the truth and she is messing with Regina’s head by doing what you would expect a jealous older sister to do.

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Phee wrote:

Regina’s lock on the crypt door, and the lock on her office in SB were both blood magic. The protection spell Regina left around the castle was essentially a lock as well, so I think it’s safe to assume that that was also blood magic.

I completely agree on that first sentence, but the rest doesn’t make any sense. ;o)

Again: Regina was totally perplexed and couldn’t believe, that anbody had entered the crypt (Blood Magic), but she immediately “accepted” it, that someone “hijacked” the protection spell (outside the castle). I didn’t hear Regina say something like “That’s not possible” in that scene – like she did in the crypt! Instead, when standing in front of the “magic shield” (It’s NOT a lock, it’s a shield) with the others, she was just like “Oh my! Someone hijacked my protection spell. Well, that sucks…” See the difference in that?

I do see the difference in the wording, yes, but I just put that down to the writers not having wanted to use the words “blood magic” yet and give away too much a whole week earlier than they wanted. They wanted the big sisters reveal to be contained in 313, so they didn’t wanna start giving away blatant hints like the words “blood magic” in 312.

The shield was a device to keep people out. A lock is a device to keep people out. When Regina put the shield up, she was essentially locking the front door so no one could get in.

I think from a storytelling perspective, it would be rather odd of them to have a reveal this major and then later say “Psych!” This isn’t just some every day plot twist, they’ve gone and given Regina a living blood relative, which she hasn’t had for quite some time. Now that they’ve put something like that out there for not just Regina, but also the audience to believe in, I doubt they’d backtrack on it.

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What if Zelena was Cora’s midwife?

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My first initial thought was that Zelena is not Regina’s sister, but the jilted fiancé or promised one (like through an arranged marriage) of King Leopold’s. That Leopold was to marry Zelena (or so she though) but when Regina saved Snow he changed his mind. And now Zelena wants everything Regina has/had because in her mind it should have been hers. As to how she got to Oz (born there, wizard her father maybe) or why she’s green (green with envy literally) I don’t know. Just my first knee jerk thought as to who she is and the reason for her going after Regina. Hell hath no fury….

I think you may have nailed it! The sister act is was a stepping stone get to Regina (Leopold’s  2nd wife) and possibly manipulate her. Her focus in Storybrooke is on Snow & baby snow (Leopold’s treasured daughter & future grandchild).  She sent her #1 Flying Monkey to keep tabs on Emma and Henry (grand child #1 and great grandson) and who knows what would have happened if Emma had married Walsh. Zelena out for everyone that Leopold loved and to extinguish their happiness.  If you were to connect the dots to all the characters Zelena is focused on the only common connection is Leopold not Cora.

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