Something happens to the Charmings… again.

[midnight dreary]

@MagicKingdomღ wrote:

But like others have said, he’s a villain, so he’ll behave as one. Trying to justify his actions isn’t going to make them any less terrible. I had to learn that with Rumpel. I love him, but I’m not going to excuse his behavior. Sometimes our love for a character gets in the way of our judgement.

WORD. As a huge Rumpel and Regina fan, I totally know what you mean.

[maiqu20]

@The Fairest wrote:

@MagicKingdomღ wrote:

Judging by what I saw, it really did seem as if Hook was going to kill Belle because he thought she was useless. When she refused to give him the information he wanted, he slapped her and said “so pretty and yet so useless.” And then preceded to raise his hook as if to kill her. The only reason why Belle survived is because of Regina…oddly enough. 😆

But like others have said, he’s a villain, so he’ll behave as one. Trying to justify his actions isn’t going to make them any less terrible. I had to learn that with Rumpel. I love him, but I’m not going to excuse his behavior. Sometimes our love for a character gets in the way of our judgement.

If he thought she were protecting Rumpel, then in his mind, would she be any better than him? That’s the reasoning I put into that. I’m still confused by why he would just randomly want to kill her for being of no use to him. Hook puts calculation into everything he does. He’s not the type to lash out with his emotions like that.

I disagree. We don’t know enough about Hook’s character to know if he’s that calculated. Rumpel is calculating. Cora is calculating. All we’ve seen from Hook is that he’s a vengeful pirate with a strange sense of “honor.” Which apparently includes taking an innocent girl’s heart and almost killing another innocent girl just because she wouldn’t do what he asked.

Yeah, I’ve never viewed Hook as calculating either. His move with Aurora’s heart might have been calculated, but his actions with Belle probably weren’t.

And I agree. Trying to justify someone’s actions is just unnecessary. There are people who make excuses for Rumpel killing Milha or Regina killing her father all the time. I’m not going to do that with Hook. The scene in the jail cell was very straightforward.

Are we talking about the jail cell with Belle or with the Princess Squad?

About him being calculating.. I think that comes and goes, sometimes he is very calculating while other times he isn’t so…this is a pirate that has survived 300+ years he had to learn to be calculating in order to truly survive

The heart thing with Aurora was him being calculating (he didn’t truly want to kill or well he didn’t really care) he knew her heart would get him in Cora’s good books again so he took it…and then he gave it back (which i’m not condoning in any way I was like seriously Killian? Seriously)

Ugh i hate it when people try to justify a character’s actions it’s like they are villains of course they are going to do evil things..that just makes redeeming them a lot more interesting (because if Regina and Rumple can be redeemed so can Hook)

[midnight dreary]

@Oncewatcher wrote:

Either way, I still hope they do more with him than make him a villan. It’s too shallow a story for him to just be a bad guy, and stay that way. That doesn’t take much effort, imagination, or brain power. Honestly, I’d feel short-changed.

Hook definitely has the qualities needed for him to be Emma’s Charming. He’ll have to definitely learn how to let some stuff go, though. It’ll take a long time, but this character will have to learn how to forgive people who hurt him. It won’t be limited to Rumpelstiltskin,. He’ll have to give grace to people, who he really hates; whether they do the same for him, or not. It’ll be hard to do that, but he’ll come out better for it, and so will the story.

Don’t worry, I’m sure the writers will redeem Hook. Compared to Cora, Rumpel and Regina, he’s a saint. 😆 So, we’ll definitely get more of his story in the future. No worries. 😉

[maiqu20]

@Midnight Dreary wrote:

@Oncewatcher wrote:

Either way, I still hope they do more with him than make him a villan. It’s too shallow a story for him to just be a bad guy, and stay that way. That doesn’t take much effort, imagination, or brain power. Honestly, I’d feel short-changed.

Hook definitely has the qualities needed for him to be Emma’s Charming. He’ll have to definitely learn how to let some stuff go, though. It’ll take a long time, but this character will have to learn how to forgive people who hurt him. It won’t be limited to Rumpelstiltskin,. He’ll have to give grace to people, who he really hates; whether they do the same for him, or not. It’ll be hard to do that, but he’ll come out better for it, and so will the story.

Don’t worry, I’m sure the writers will redeem Hook. Compared to Cora, Rumpel and Regina, he’s a saint. 😆 So, we’ll definitely get more of his story in the future. No worries. 😉

Exactly 😆

[Killian Jones]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

I think the major thing that happens to the Charmings, in addition to Cora and Hook being in town, is the arrival of the outsider, Barrett, (which I think is also to do with King George standing trail for Gus’ murder and botched frame-job on Red). Barrett, who has a dark side which he tries to justify, sounds like he could stir up trouble.

I am really looking forward to seeing Charming and Emma interact. Yet, I’m not sure how much we’re going to see them interact right away. There are new BTS shots of Charming and Snow, along with 7 dwarves and Ruby, pulling someone out of a hole. It looks like Emma and Henry are out of town, because Charming is wearing a sheriff badge, so he may be the acting sheriff or deputy while Emma is away. Maybe she's off finding Mr. Gold's son and Henry is with her. 😀 http://vancityfilming.com/articles/once-upon-a-time-get-out-of-a-hole/

Oh I hope they don’t do anything to separate them right away again That's interesting that he's still wearing the sheriff's badge, I'm anxious to see how that plays out if they're gonna be working together or not

[Daniel J. Lewis]

Again?!?!? I just wrote a post about how I hope the Charming family is able to stay together for the second half of season 2, and then I read this! 😡

[toothfairy]

Yeah, I know. The latest tragedy to befall the poor Charming family. It’s about time they were a less afflicted for a while. It’s getting very old. Let their family bond and while that’s happening, for some good drama I hope they’ll work on the Hook and Emma thing. 😡

[antbee]

@The Fairest wrote:

I doubt Barret has anything on Cora and Hook. Being a trouble maker doesn’t equal the kind of power that Cora has. Even Hook has developed some magical talents (ripping out hearts). I still think Cora and Hook are the main villains of season 2, and the “heroes” will end up teaming up with Rumpel and Regina to defeat them. The Charmings will probably come to view Rumpel and Regina as a necessary evil. The Charmings are always coming to Rumpel for help, and they’re beginning to warm up to Regina. Now, whether not that lasts is yet to be seen, but I still think Cora and Hook are the ones to beat this season.

Yes, I think that Phee and EmptyHeart could be correct in that Barrett is connected to Neal in some way. Even if he’s not connected to Neal, the way he’s being set up makes it seem like Cora and Hook will be the ones to beat this season, but perhaps next season they could be setting him up to reveal his dark side. Right now I think he might be mostly observing and perhaps even helping the allies or seeming like he is.

I also agree that the Charmings + Rumple + Regina will have to team up to defeat Cora and Hook. The common denominator linking all of them together is Henry, assuming that Neal is Baelfire of course, so something is definitely going to happen to him, I’m afraid, in order for them to put away their differences for a short time and work together. Before that happens though, it’s going to get very dark with Cora and Hook causing all kinds of chaos in Storybrooke, so that C+R+R will be reluctant to work with each other because they’ll probably be weary on who their true friends are. When Henry’s life is in danger though, they’ll have no choice but to put away their differences and work together.

[Slurpeez]

I have my own theory about Barrett being “the outsider” to SB. E&A said in their official podcast for 2×9 that after the hiatus, we’re going to see King George on trial for the killing of a mouse and a botched frame-job of a werewolf. If proven guilty, he must travel to a state penitentiary outside of SB, which would make him lose his FTL-idenity. As a former DA for SB, King George (aka “Decker”) was an official for the state of Maine prior to the curse being broken. I think that Barrett is also a state official who comes to SB to watch George’s/Decker’s trial. Jennifer Morrison gave a recent spoiler that Barrett isn’t recognized by the other residents of SB as a fairytale character, but he could be from another far-off land. According to the casting call, Barrett has a dark side he tries to justify. I think he could be the “something extra” that the Charmings have to find a way to deal with. His presence in town could stir up trouble if he’s someone with a “dark side” who could be suspicious about magic being in SB.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[maiqu20]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

I have my own theory about Barrett being “the outsider” to SB. E&A said in their official podcast for 2×9 that after the hiatus, we’re going to see King George on trial for the killing of a mouse and a botched frame-job of a werewolf. If proven guilty, he must travel to a state penitentiary outside of SB, which would make him lose his FTL-idenity. As a former DA for SB, King George (aka “Decker”) was an official for the state of Maine prior to the curse being broken. I think that Barrett is also a state official who comes to SB to watch George’s/Decker’s trial. Jennifer Morrison gave a recent spoiler that Barrett isn’t recognised by the other residents of SB as a fairytale character, but he could be from another far-off land. According to the casting call, Barrett has a dark side he tries to justify. I think he could be the “something extra” that the Charmings have to find a way to deal with. His presence in town could stir up trouble if he’s someone with a “dark side” who could be suspicious about magic being in SB.

I love this theory

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