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August 26, 2013 at 1:36 pm #206765SlurpeezParticipant
I’d prefer for Ariel to remain as close to the Disney version of “The Little Mermaid” as possible. While I’m excited to see some “dark mermaids” I want Ariel to stand in stark contrast to them and for her to get her happily ever after. It’d be too tragic if she ended up dead or didn’t get to be with the love of her life, Eric. While Once isn’t afraid of pushing the boundaries, I doubt they would deny one of Disney’s most popular princess her happily ever after, especially on a show based on hope.
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 26, 2013 at 1:43 pm #206767RumplesGirlKeymasterI’d prefer for Ariel to remain as close to the Disney version of “The Little Mermaid” as possible. While I’m excited to see some “dark mermaids” I want Ariel to stand in stark contrast to them and for her to get her happily ever after. It’d be too tragic if she ended up dead or didn’t get to be with the love of her life, Eric. While Once isn’t afraid of pushing the boundaries, I doubt they would deny one of Disney’s most popular princess her happily ever after, especially on a show based on hope.
Her happily ever after doesn’t have to be with Eric though. If we want Ariel to be more than just a one off or more than 3 or 4 episodes, they need to integrate her in with the rest of the cast. Most of the princesses do have their happily ever afters; Philip is back somehow, Ella and Thomas are together raising their child, Snow and Charming have each other, and…well we’re working on Belle and her beast. This could be a time to explore the idea that sometimes the princess doesn’t get the Disney fairy tale treatment. I really like a theory from @runaroundmacy who wants Eric to be in the past, either dead or having married someone else, like he does in the original. I don’t think Ariel will be a dark mermaid, I think she will be a total contrast to the soul suckers/flesh eaters/men drowners/whatevers the other merpeople are.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 26, 2013 at 2:00 pm #206769HappyEndingsSpectatorI’d prefer for Ariel to remain as close to the Disney version of “The Little Mermaid” as possible. While I’m excited to see some “dark mermaids” I want Ariel to stand in stark contrast to them and for her to get her happily ever after. It’d be too tragic if she ended up dead or didn’t get to be with the love of her life, Eric. While Once isn’t afraid of pushing the boundaries, I doubt they would deny one of Disney’s most popular princess her happily ever after, especially on a show based on hope.
Yea, I do too like the Disney version and hope they stay with that one.
August 26, 2013 at 2:05 pm #206770kfchimeraParticipantWe do have Mulan without Shang, though that love story was less central to Mulan’s story.
I could see it be both ways really. If this is a “mini-movie” then it is hard for them to really resolve certain plot lines they have in mind for the series-long relationships, so they might have Ariel and Eric’s happy ending be the bow on the end of this mini-arc.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
August 26, 2013 at 2:16 pm #206771SlurpeezParticipantWe do have Mulan without Shang, though that love story was less central to Mulan’s story. I could see it be both ways really.
True, but then, we haven’t seen Mulan’s backstory either. We know she had to prove herself as a warrior, but we don’t know if she’s even met Shang yet or what will happen with Mulan’s unrequited love for Phillip. Maybe the way they’re going to resolve that love triangle is by having Mulan meet Shang in the future. I really don’t want Mulan to be the “other woman” that comes between Philip and Aurora. While I like creativity, I’m a bit of a Disney purist when it comes to coupling. And as much as I’d find it interesting for Ariel to fall for someone like Hook (him being her unrequited love), I would want Eric to be reserved as Ariel’s “endgame” so to speak.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 26, 2013 at 2:29 pm #206772RumplesGirlKeymasterIf this weren’t Once Upon a Time and someone tried to put Ariel with any other person, I’d have a fit, because I do get the Disney purist POV, I do. I was born in 1987 and grew in the so-called Disney Renaissance. TLM was the first movie I ever saw in theaters and everything had to be Ariel until I was 5 and saw BatB. But OUAT isn’t “let’s remake Disney movies into live action.” And so while I’m a Disney fan as much as the next girl, OUAT is known for challenging those Disney stories. Plus, if we’re adding RH to Regina’s love life and then introducing Ariel and Eric as canon+endgame and wanting them to be on show at least regularly, because once Ariel is here I can’t see them putting her aside after only a few episodes, that’s a whole lot of new characters who now need developed and thought out and given something to do. Having Eric be a past figure who married someone else is staying true to TLM and giving Ariel the chance to integrate into the show and have her be a legit part and not a “hey! we gave you Ariel for one brief moment. How about that?”
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 26, 2013 at 3:19 pm #206777SlurpeezParticipantThe Little Mermaid is the first cartoon I remember ever watching, so Ariel has always been my favorite Disney princess. I’m very excited for her story and am protective of her (as are thousands of fans, I’m sure). As much as I like Killian Jones for being a ruffian pirate, he’s a scoundrel who seduced another man’s wife and then challenged a cripple husband to a duel he knew he’d surely lose. He’s also knocked Belle unconscious and tried to kill her. So, that’s not really the type I envision for Ariel or Emma long-term. I know people change, and I hope he will, but I’m sorta hoping he ends up with Regina. I think the Evil Queen would know best how to handle a man like Hook. But, admittedly, this is in part my own bias speaking as a HookedQueen/Swanfire fan.
As for Ariel appearing in more than a few episodes, I think it’ll all depend on whether Eric lives in NL or not. Perhaps Ariel has been stranded from in NL during the curse whereas Eric is from the EF but is now stuck in SB. If he is, then perhaps Ariel will travel back with the JR6 in 3×11 and help the group in whatever challenges they face in the second half of S3. Ariel might have inside knowledge on the HO having spent so long spying on the human world of NL.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
August 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm #206778RumplesGirlKeymasterOh I get it, I do. Belle is my favorite and when they announced that Rumple was going to be the Beast I was livid because I already had in my head they way Belle’s story was supposed to play out. It wasn’t until I Skin Deep aired that I realizes how much sense it made for them to combine Rumple and the Beast.
I should admit, like you did, that a lot of the “Eric doesn’t have to be her canon+endgame” is due in large part to my Hookriel tendencies. 😉
As for Ariel appearing in more than a few episodes, I think it’ll all depend on whether Eric lives in NL or not. Perhaps Ariel has been stranded from in NL during the curse whereas Eric is from the EF but is now stuck in SB. If he is, then perhaps Ariel will travel back with the JR6 in 3×11 and help the group in whatever challenges they face in the second half of S3. Ariel might have inside knowledge on the HO having spent so long spying on the human world of NL.
Good point. As of right now we know very little about Ariel or Eric or even the mermaids. We know they are casting Eric but so far there hasn’t been a casting call that we know of so we’re all just running on our speculation headcanons.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"August 27, 2013 at 1:12 am #206790PheeParticipantThis could be a time to explore the idea that sometimes the princess doesn’t get the Disney fairy tale treatment.
And I think that given the source material they have in this particular case, this could be the perfect opportunity to do it. The original version of TLM had such a different ending to the Disney version, and I think it’d be a bit wrong if they just ignored Anderson’s version of the story and only included elements of Disney’s. It would certainly throw viewers for a loop if they didn’t have the mermaid end up with her prince, but they could quite legitimately say, “Read the original, she doesn’t get the guy.”
I could see it be both ways really. If this is a “mini-movie” then it is hard for them to really resolve certain plot lines they have in mind for the series-long relationships, so they might have Ariel and Eric’s happy ending be the bow on the end of this mini-arc.
They could just give Ariel a short arc, but I think that’d be a silly move from a marketing standpoint. Ariel has the potential to recruit a bunch of new viewers, due to her popularity. Only having her on the show for a couple of eps would be a bit of a waste.
The Little Mermaid is the first cartoon I remember ever watching, so Ariel has always been my favorite Disney princess. I’m very excited for her story and am protective of her (as are thousands of fans, I’m sure).
There have only really been two Disney movies that I’ve gone through a hardcore phase for, (all of Disney is wonderful, but there are only a couple of the movies I’ve gone nuts over and watched over and over), one was Aladdin, and the other was The Little Mermaid. I’d dance around my bedroom endlessly, pretending to be Ariel swimming around in her grotto, singing Part Of That World. So I totally get that people would feel protective of her story. It’s because I went through that TLM phase that I’m so excited to see Ariel on the show. I just find Anderson’s version of the story to be just as good as Disney’s, and in some ways more compelling and ripe for OUAT drama.
As much as I like Killian Jones for being a ruffian pirate, he’s a scoundrel who seduced another man’s wife and then challenged a cripple husband to a duel he knew he’d surely lose. He’s also knocked Belle unconscious and tried to kill her. So, that’s not really the type I envision for Ariel or Emma long-term.
We’re yet to see how he became that way, the type of person he was before he became a pirate, and we’re gonna see him trying to change for the better in S3. Overall, I think he’s a complex, damaged character, not a simple scoundrel. One of the reasons I don’t imagine him being with Emma as endgame is because she’s spent her whole life being forced to move around, disconnected from people, and her happy ending would be to settle down in a safe, stable home, surrounded by her family to make up for all that lost time. Killian’s not the type to wanna be tied down like that. His happy ending is sailing around on the JR, exploring and adventuring, just like he and his father had originally set out to do all those years ago. That sounds like a perfect match for Ariel IMO, she’s all about the passion to explore new places, and if Killian can’t fulfill that dream with his father, he’ll need someone else to share the adventure with. Also, because Ariel is one of my all time faves, I’d love to see her stick around and have a connection that ties her in with the main characters. Those are both big reasons that I’m on the Hookriel ship.
Good point. As of right now we know very little about Ariel or Eric or even the mermaids. We know they are casting Eric but so far there hasn’t been a casting call that we know of so we’re all just running on our speculation headcanons.
I’m sorta dying for some casting call leaks for 306. If we don’t get an obvious Eric, then it may be that 305’s Liam is Eric. And I’m just curious in general about what other characters they might cast for Ariel’s debut ep.
August 27, 2013 at 8:24 am #206792HappyEndingsSpectatorHarvested from the rarest species of squid from the bottom of a bottomless ocean – impossible to find, unless you’re a mermaid. Or me. 2×08(Into the Deep)
So Rumble didn’t need a mermaid to help him he could turn himself into a fish or something to get the ink. Which is how Regina can play Ursula after all squid ink is only used by a squid as a smoke screen which protects the squid from danger or trying to get away from someone.
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