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October 16, 2013 at 8:29 pm #216461RumplesGirlKeymaster
This also gets me to thinking with the images how it would be possible for Robin to be related to George a long lost son? Which is perhaps possible if the writers can circumvent the bit about George’s wife being rendered barren. He could also very well be a nephew, son of brother who was usurped by George whom we know to be a vengeful man. Pure speculation but fun nonetheless.
Oooooh. Now that’s some interesting crack (what we call wild speculative theory)
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 16, 2013 at 8:37 pm #216464SlurpeezParticipantThis also gets me to thinking with the images how it would be possible for Robin to be related to George a long lost son? Which is perhaps possible if the writers can circumvent the bit about George’s wife being rendered barren. He could also very well be a nephew, son of brother who was usurped by George whom we know to be a vengeful man. Pure speculation but fun nonetheless.
Oooooh. Now that’s some interesting crack (what we call wild speculative theory)
Do you mean Robin Hood could be King George’s illegitimate son? Because George’s wife was barren and unable to have any children.
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October 16, 2013 at 8:39 pm #216466RumplesGirlKeymasterstoryteller wrote: This also gets me to thinking with the images how it would be possible for Robin to be related to George a long lost son? Which is perhaps possible if the writers can circumvent the bit about George’s wife being rendered barren. He could also very well be a nephew, son of brother who was usurped by George whom we know to be a vengeful man. Pure speculation but fun nonetheless.
Oooooh. Now that’s some interesting crack (what we call wild speculative theory)
Do you mean Robin Hood could be King George’s illegitimate son? Because George’s wife was barren and unable to have any children.
Oh right. And had to take James in order to have an heir.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 16, 2013 at 9:07 pm #216474storytellerParticipantOooooh. Now that’s some interesting crack (what we call wild speculative theory)
Hee hee! Well dearie, suppose I told you I suspected Rumple was connected to Henry way back in 1×04 “Price of Gold” and that leap of faith played out nicely. Maybe lighting will strike twice.
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October 16, 2013 at 9:26 pm #216478kfchimeraParticipantOOOh, interersting Maybe George had an affair and that is why his wife got cursed, when he would not recognize the baby of his mistress?
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
October 16, 2013 at 10:00 pm #216490storytellerParticipantNow the writers have told us before that its not a good idea to take the villains word at face value although as Obi-wan would counsel what they say is the truth from a certain point of view. For all we know George may have thought he and his wife’s lives were blissful but in reality his wife may have been miserable and rather than continue she fabricates a fiction about a potion rendering her barren and is cast off while in actuality she’s pregnant and when George discovers the deception he kills her. After all in “The Shepherd” Rumple says to George that now that his Queen is gone conceiving another heir is out of the question. Kurosawa’s rashomon effect as ever, Snow believed she had Excalibur didn’t she?
Conversely they may take a page from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet here: an uncle deposes his brother to posses his throne and his brother’s widow and his nephew the true heir rather than talking to skulls in this case winds up in exile. Just a thought, just a playful thought…
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October 16, 2013 at 10:17 pm #216491RumplesGirlKeymasterow the writers have told us before that its not a good idea to take the villains word at face value although as Obi-wan would counsel what they say is the truth from a certain point of view. For all we know George may have thought he and his wife’s lives were blissful but in reality his wife may have been miserable and rather than continue she fabricates a fiction about a potion rendering her barren and is cast off while in actuality she’s pregnant and when George discovers the deception he kills her. Kurosawa’s rashomon effect as ever, Snow believed she had Excalibur didn’t she?
George could be a bit on an unreliable narrator. He’s not exactly at top of the “good” guy list. And people change their own personal history if it gives them a better light. (I saw what I saw and I did what I did–but not according to the other guy) (excellent Rashomon referece btw)
I am very interested to learn more about Robin’s family now.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"October 17, 2013 at 1:35 am #216522PheeParticipantGiven that we’ve already seen that very similar lion motif in the show already, I think there’s gotta be some connection to George. The lion in Robin’s tatt is facing the opposite way to the lion in George’s crest, which could mean something or could mean nothing.
I will laugh if he’s actually related to George, because then the family tree gets even more twisty, considering Charming was kinda sorta for about 5 minutes fake related to George. Regina would end up with someone who is actually related in some way to the Charmings. YAY for one big happy family. 😉
October 17, 2013 at 1:49 am #216526storytellerParticipantOr… King George could end up being one of Regina’s uncles. Grandpa Xavier did shove four older siblings out the way to make way for Henry and Cora.
Even if Robin is not a relation of George the tattoo may mark him as the rightful heir to that particular kingdom. The Arthurian Romances pop into my mind as the best analogue but, nous verons ce que nous verons.
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October 17, 2013 at 8:20 am #216559timespacerParticipantThe first thing I thought of when I saw the lion tattoo was Richard the Lionheart but I agree that it is much more likely they’ll relate Robin to King George than to an historical figure like Richard. Now I want to see that story!
By the way, those who are fans of historical fiction might enjoy the trilogy of novels by Sharon Kay Penman which tell the story of Eleanor of Aquitaine, Henry II, Richard Lionhart and other members of that bunch. The books are:
When Christ and His Saints Slept (Stephen of Blois, Empress Maude)
Time and Chance (Henry II, Eleanor, Thomas Becket)
Devil’s Brood (Richard Lionheart, Hal, and John)
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