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So consider that a 14 year old parentless Baelfire enters this world much like Pinnochio. What possibility is there that he too ends up in the foster care system? What chance is there as well that he too might have ended up in a little trouble like Emma or Pinnochio/August, may have even met one or both if he indeed landed in this time and a particular place as one of them. 😉
Of course he might have been luckier and found great parents or even been adopted and had a home… who knows at this point? But if he landed in the right time and place circumstances/ and some subtle FTL “magic” was involved. I am sure if he were to meet Emma he would for some unexplained reason been drawn to her. And what if she was his true love, but he refused to stay with her because he was looking for his father. These writers tend to like parallelisms and foreshadowing of this sort. Would be interesting if Rumple put something in the curse that would have drawn Bae to Emma.
[adrotate group="5"]Emma wasn’t under the curse. I like the idea that if Bae is out there he was drawn to Emma, but i don’t think it can be caused by anything to do with the curse or with Rumpel because neither Emma or Bae are under the curse so it should not be effecting them magically.
I hope they introduce some new characters this season. I like the idea that Henry’s father is Bae, but at the same time i wouldn’t mind a new character being introduced. And not just one hit characters like regular or reoccurring characters.
i think Baelfire was turned into ageless object or animal until he came in contact with Emma. i prefer a frog but anything will do.
The above is a very good idea depending on how they play it. In my mind Baelfire has to come into series 2 at some point, he is the missing piece.
It makes total sense for Baelfire to be Henry’s father, the likeness of the characters is obvious to those who have thought about this theory. Baelfire is very strong willed, opinionated and wants his father to be ‘good’. Henry is a few years younger than Baelfire, but still has these characteristics. Even the hair swings a nod in that direction.
You have to think that 28 years (Even more when you think about the period of time Rumplestiltskin took to make the spell) would have had an affect on Baelfire. He would not be the character we know on the screen, but a more hopeless, angry character who has had everything he knows ripped away from him.
We have to look at Jefferson. He is a man driven within an inch of his sanity, he see’s Regina as the reason he cannot go home and was drawn to Emma to make her find a way. Baelfire probably felt the same.
Here are the bits in my mind that are missing and i am curious as to how they will fill in the gaps
1) If Baelfire is Henry’s father, why did they end their relationship and why didnt baelfire persue it if he felt she could help him get back to his world?
This is a pivotal question and one which is quite hard to answer unless you line it up with the ‘Baelfire turns into a frog’ theory.
2) For Rumplestiltskin to pick up baby Henry, how did he know that the child was the saviours son? Assuming he has foreseen things, he must of known Henry was the only way to get Emma to Storybrooke. Is he aware Henry is his grandson?
The last question, im guessing not. It would be good for Rumple to have not foreseen this.
Because we do not know the nature of the world of ‘Once’ next season predictions are going to be incredibly difficult….Still fun though 😛
I have been hearing WILD SPECULATION as to what is to come next….also comments by the writers……From that my theory has grown to this…….
Emma is suppose to have a love interest next season.. and as much as I like August / Pinocchio I hope it is someone totally different.I think much of the season will be Gold / with or without Belle looking for Baelfire through this real world and even the other doors… via the hat or any other methods IE his own magic.
Once GOLD finds Baelfire they return to SB where Bael meets up with Emma. ( Who is now in a serious relationship with someone else.)
From there:
Emma and Bael ( everyone else takes sides) argue over Henry. Bael may or may not be married at this time. Regardless we find out why Bael does not know of Henry’s existence… good reasons or bad, I need more information before I can decide.
Henry either accepts or reject his father ( Being Henry, he will make his own evaluation.)
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Emma and Bael, like Romeo and Juliet, reunite and must mediate the relationships between the families.REGINA in the mean time either takes or has Henry and ….everyone unites to fight her and get Henry back. Regina and Gold for a showdown of some sort …. hope it is a draw and they go into Season Three.
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It makes total sense for Baelfire to be Henry’s father, the likeness of the characters is obvious to those who have thought about this theory. Baelfire is very strong willed, opinionated and wants his father to be ‘good’. Henry is a few years younger than Baelfire, but still has these characteristics. Even the hair swings a nod in that direction.
Yes, even though Henry’s bravery comes from his mom’s side, I do see a lot of parallels between him and Baelfire, and I don’t think that it’s unintentional. In fact, I found a collection of essays about parallels between Henry, Bae, and Mr. Gold. http://oncereflections.com/category/baelfire/ I don’t agree with everything that the author wrote, but I do think that the parallels specifically between Henry and Mr. Gold are hinting at them actually being related to each other since there’s not really a reason to do so since Mr. Gold has no connection to Henry as of now. I also like the Bae is Henry’s father theory for that reason because it does seem very unusual that Henry is the only other main character on the show that isn’t connected to Rumpelstiltskin when he has a connection with all the other characters and is inserted into so many fairy tales because of him starting everything in motion.
I wonder if that’s why the writers wanted to wait a few years before revealing who Henry’s dad is because Henry could then be around the same age that his dad was when his dad was ripped apart from Henry’s grandfather, but instead of Henry and Bae being ripped apart, they would be reunited. Or they wait until Henry’s around Bae’s age when Bae got sucked to Earth, and have Bae reunite with his father after he realizes, he hasn’t been such a good dad either. (Of course, I’m not sure if he can be blamed for Emma not telling him about Henry; although he could be blamed for his douchy behavior that lead to Emma not telling him about Henry.)
1) If Baelfire is Henry’s father, why did they end their relationship and why didnt baelfire persue it if he felt she could help him get back to his world?
I’m hoping that he just got freaked out by something that made him have a flashback to his previous life in the Enchanted Forest when he was with Emma, and he couldn’t handle it because he thought his father was involved somehow with his relationship with Emma.
2) For Rumplestiltskin to pick up baby Henry, how did he know that the child was the saviours son? Assuming he has foreseen things, he must of known Henry was the only way to get Emma to Storybrooke. Is he aware Henry is his grandson?
I believe the producers when they said that Rumpel only got his memory back after Emma arrived into town. Plus, I don’t think he would use his grandson as a pawn like that especially since Bae would never forgive him if it were true. Plus, as dark as his character is, he does seem to have a code about children even when he’s separating them their parents. He won’t do it to every child only those with parents that he thinks are unworthy of their children unlike Regina who separated Hansel and Gretel from their dad just because she was full of envy about their relationship. Anyhow, I can already see him going after Regina even more because of Henry almost dying due to her apple tart once he finds out that Henry’s his grandson.
I just hope that Bae isn’t the Big Bad or a Big Bad, and didn’t let Henry be brought to Storybrooke because of his master plan against his dad since I think that would make him irredeemable.
I don’t know who was behind Henry being brought there though. Maybe the Blue Fairy was keeping tabs on Emma and found out about Henry being up for adoption, and had him be brought to Storybrooke. Maybe it was the curse that did it. Or maybe it could only be Henry that was brought there because he has two magical parents, so maybe Regina had wanted a child for almost 18 years, but couldn’t acquire one until Henry was born because the other children weren’t magical enough to be brought to Storybrooke.
Emma is suppose to have a love interest next season.. and as much as I like August / Pinocchio I hope it is someone totally different.
I hope so too because I don’t see any chemistry there at all except sibling like chemistry. Plus, puppets freak me out, and I’ll just keep imaging him as he was in “A Land Without Magic” if they kiss or anything else.
However, I think that this next part is probably closer to the truth,
Once GOLD finds Baelfire they return to SB where Bael meets up with Emma. ( Who is now in a serious relationship with someone else.)
I bet there’s a love triangle between Bae, Emma, and August since those 3 are the only 3 that escaped the curse. Ultimately, Bae/Emma will be endgame, but I think Bae will have to redeem himself from however he was before by suffering watching Emma and August be together.
Henry either accepts or reject his father ( Being Henry, he will make his own evaluation.)
I think he’ll eventually accept him, but I do think Regina will try to use Bae to put a wedge between Emma and Henry. I don’t think it will work, but I could see her thinking that tellling Henry his dad is really alive and maybe even helping bring him to Storybrooke for Henry to meet would make Henry hate Emma for Emma telling Henry that his father died. Of course, it would then backfire on Regina when Henry doesn’t hate Emma forever, and Regina finds out that Rumple is in fact Henry’s grandfather.
Oh, building on that, what if Regina with her use of magic summons Henry’s father to Storybrooke, like you said, to rip Emma and Henry apart. But, lo and behold, the father is Bae and in doing so she’s aided Gold in his goal after all. Of course, then you just wonder why Gold doesn’t summon Bae himself. Gah, we better not have to wait another season for Bae, I’m eager to see him as an adult.
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Bae might not need redemption even if he is Henry’s father. We don’t know whether Emma has told the truth about Henry’s father to anyone in Storybooke; she might have reasons she’d rather not talk about that part of her life, and citing him as a source of pain would give her the excuse to stay silent.
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As much as I want Bae to be Henry’s father, I still have this nagging feeling that Jefferson is Bae. There seem to be so many things to point to him being Bae. For one Jefferson is a “realm jumper” for lack of a better term – something that would be realistic for Bae to learn to do if he wanted to find a way to get back to his father or find a way to bring his father to him. I know that Bae did not like magic, but he WAS willing to use magic to get his father away from magic. Using that logic it would make sense that he would be willing to use magic to find a way to get back to his father or find a way to bring his father to him.
Although we haven’t seen the backstory yet we know that SOMETHING went on with either Cora and Rumple or Regina and Rumple that resulted in Regina and Rumple at one time being very familiar with one another but ending in being enemies. We also know that SOMETHING went on with Regin and Jefferson that resulted in them at one time being very familiar with one another but ending in also being enemies. Regina and Jefferson use magic together via Jefferson’s hat to realm jump. They also talk ALL THE TIME about abandoning or being abandoned by family. In fact, Regina likes to tease and insult Jefferson about this. Jefferson has mentioned that he gave up magic because he lost his wife because of magic. It would be very like Regina to tease Jefferson if he was also Bae and had lost his father because Rumple didn’t go into the vortex with him. If Jefferson was willing to use magic to find his father even though he didn’t like magic – he would feel very guilty if magic caused him to “lose” his wife (similar wording that Rumple used to describe how he “lost” Bae) and it would be enough to make him give up magic and give up trying to find Rumple. It would also give Regina even more reason to tease and make fun of Jefferson (oh look, you’re just as pathetic as your father). Now, in SB Jefferson has been separated from his child – just like Rumple was separated from his child, all because of magic. If Jefferson is Bae he would know how painful it is to be aware of being ripped from your family because of magic – so he would prefer to have Grace live happily with a fake family than be aware of reality. If Regina has truely been controlling Jefferson he may know that his father has been only a few feet away from him for the past 28 years but he hasn’t been able to do anything about it – another reason he wouldn’t want Grace to know about who they really are – he knows how painful that would be. It would also make sense for Jefferson to free Belle for his father, also knowing that his father would get revenge on Regina for all three of them.
I think that Henry’s father did do something to Emma though i think it may be a misunderstanding. I don’t think that Emma is lying about the fact that she believes the father did something to her. She is way too angry for it to make sense that it is a lie. I have always thought that whatever happened, whatever the father did, caused Emma to go to jail, but we have no proof of that. Not that she is completely innocent in whatever caused her to go to jail. It does seem that she is complicate in some way and not that she just didn’t do it, but who knows. I just always have the two events wrapped up together because we know that Emma got pregnant went to jail and then found out she was pregnant so those events were close together in timeline. A lot of times it seems like the writers are flying by the seat of their pants so who knows how much of that they actually have planned out.
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