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@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Another spoiler tweet!
Regina refusing to acknowledge her faults, again. She is all “but it’s not my fault, it’s Snows!”
I really think she shouldn’t be redeemed as long as she won’t admit, take responsibility and ask forgiveness for the wrong she has done.
Ps: I’m sorry, my grammar is horrible I know, it’s with that that I have the most difficulties…
I wonder if the thing Henry does that he’s never done before is as simple as calling Rumple “Grandpa” for the first time.
@BeastWhisperer wrote:
I wonder if the thing Henry does that he’s never done before is as simple as calling Rumple “Grandpa” for the first time.
That could definitely be the case, like the first time Henry called Emma “Mom” in the S1 finale.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Ok, that last tweet with Mr. Gold and Henry was too adorable for words! 😆 I’m overcome with Grandpastiltskin feels! 😀
BWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GRANDPASTILTSKIN! 😆
No, I’m serious…I want to hear Henry say the word “Grandpastiltskin.” 😆 I NEED TO HEAR IT!
@Ser_Dragon wrote:
@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Another spoiler tweet!
Regina refusing to acknowledge her faults, again. She is all “but it’s not my fault, it’s Snows!”
I really think she shouldn’t be redeemed as long as she won’t admit, take responsibility and ask forgiveness for the wrong she has done.
This is really the essence of what I find to be one of the most interesting things about this show. I agree with you SerDragon that you’ve gotta be able to see and acknowledge your own mistakes and so does Regina. But… yes there is a but.. People become the words that are spoken about them. Meaning if you keep calling someone evil, thats what they will become because its how they are then percieved by the people around them- AND in the end the way they percieve themselves.
With this show and this story it is a good way to point to this believe. Because fairytale characters are VERY defined by (their story..ofcourse) the words asociated with them. In the original Fairytale Snow White, it is impossible to see the Evil Queen as enything but Evil because she is the Evil Queen- Its the snake biting its own tale, kind of a thing- the circel that never ends.
Coming back to our Regina. She was A queen, it was someone else, the story, the storyteller, us- who aded the Evil to her name. She IS not evil, no human being is evil in their essence. Evil is a constructed word or idea. There are wrong acts and right acts acording to what direction the action-taker wants to go ( okay this’ getting to philosophical and think i’m floating abit far of the ground, I’m not really very good at explaining this..)
Anyways Regina is Regina, a human being, not an evil being.. We become the words that are spoken about us. We become a story about ourselves…….. Does enybody get what I’m trying to say 😕 😆 🙄
I read in a nother spoiler somewhere that there is no coming back from murder- Yes! ofcourse not.. it can never be undone.So who is it that a murderer needs to ask for forgiveness, who should forgive them ? The family of the victim maybe never will and understandable enough. The victim ofcourse can not… Does this then make that person evil and then thats just that ? In my opinion that is only and effort to push them away from being human- “They are not like us!” ergo:they are just evil, so because we are not like them this does not concern us. Enybody seen that Milgram experiment ? We are all capable of doing wrong things if we are put under the right circumstances.
Okay I know this prob. belong in a nother thread, so I will stop babbling on now 😆 I just feel very passionate about this topic.Evil’s made not born, Dearie.
Rumple may have a similar issue–he was fairly brave and has done very brave things even before he became the DO. (Sometimes foolish, but there you go.) Yet everyone assumed he would be a coward and everyone called him one, and so he now thinks of himself as a coward–and in some ways he became what they thought, just differently from how anyone would expect.
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Yes exactly !! 😀 You can also find similariaties in the phrase: The sins of the father. Wich is true in Rumples case. His father was a coward so he must be a coward too, maybe thats why Milah really didn’t want Rumple to return home, because now he was a coward, so that must mean their son would become one too- because everyone would speak of him like that. The son of a coward.
It’s really quite scary to think that it might very well work this way in the real world too 😯
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