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As far as I know, It’s unknown If Milla legally ended her marriage to Rumple. Could she and killian have gotten married? They seemed so in love that it would be hard to imagine then not being married although piarits do live by their own code. But wouldn’t that be something if Hook is Bae’s stepfather. It certainly would be true to OUAT style. 😯
[adrotate group="5"]Milha and Rumple never divorced, since Rumple thought she had been captured or even killed by pirates. After he became the Dark One, Rumple was shocked to discover his wife was still living when she pleaded for Hook’s life. Rumple realized she had willingly run off with Hook. Despite being presumed dead, she was still living, and so her marriage to Rumple would still have been legally binding. So, if Milha had sought to marry Hook without first legally divorcing Rumple (assuming that was even an option), Milha would have been unable to marry a second time or would have committed bigamy. Pirates rarely upheld moral convictions, as evidenced by the fact that Hook and Milha committed adultery in the name of “true love” and Milha abandoned Bae. As a pirate captain, Hook could have declared his rights to officiate a “wedding” for him and Milha, but Milha couldn’t legally marry Killian while her first husband was still living.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
What Slurpeez said!
Legally, no.
Emotionally, yes. I think Hook would consider himself a father figure to Bae, or at least he tried to be."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Who’s to say what the legalities of marriage and divorce were defined as in FTL.
In the real world, I don’t condone adultery at all, so I do have issues with Milah having run off with Killian. But looking at it from his perspective, he loved Milah, and he’d probably heard an awful lot about Bae. So actually meeting him, something he never thought would happen, would have been an emotional experience for him. This kid was part of the woman Killian had loved, so it’s understandable that he’d have wished for some connection with him, especially considering that Milah was gone.
It’s interesting that we do not yet have the words we need for the possible relationships between people who are almost-but-not-quite-married, considering how many people now live in such relationships. There are people who say that Regina isn’t Snow’s stepmother anymore because Snow’s father is dead, and I don’t think THAT counts, but I do think that Belle and Hook qualify as almost-step-parents to Bae. (Here’s hoping Belle & Gold get the chance to make it official someday.)
But I don’t think that Milah and Hook could ever have been officially married under their circumstances. They had between 5-10 years together, though, while Bae was growing up, and it’s pretty clear that their relationship was one of true love as Once defines it. That’s been shown over and over to trump any legal entanglements (David & Abigail/Kathryn being a key example where True Love is shown to be better than any other kind of romantic relationship), even if there are ethical issues with pursuing it under those conditions. Milah was a jerk to Rumple over it, no question, and she shouldn’t have abandoned her son, either. Of course, if we’re going to compare her to Rumple, the Dark One, who by the time he killed her had squished random cart owners for skinning Bae’s knee and mute maids for overhearing a few words about his dagger…New Dark One Rumple is one scary dude. And of course by that time he’d abandoned Bae in a moment of panic as well, and his killing Milah was less about her lack of love for him than about his own guilt over letting go of Bae (just like his beating Moe was less about what he believed Moe had done to Belle and more about his own guilt for letting Belle go to face what he believed had happened).
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I’m not expert and we do need to consider that Hook and Milah live in a world that is not regulated like ours, but could they have a common law marriage? They were obviously deeply in love, they lived together for 5-10 years like Keb pointed out, and once Hook had Bae (even for a short time) they “shared” a child.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I wasn’t suggesting that Rumple is absolved for his sins in murdering Milha, but the fact remains that she was an unfaithful wife and neglegant mother. Yes, Rumple was just as guilty of abandoning Baelfire by the time he killed Milha. Milha and Rumple were both poor parents to Bae, since both put their own desires ahead of the needs of their son.
Captain Hook was a pirate who, despite having his own code, showed no qualms about seducing a married woman or carrying her away from her young son. Yes, it was her free choice to go with Hook, but it takes two, so they say. Commiting adultry is still breaking a moral convention, tearing apart a family and breaking an oath, but I don’t think pirates care very much about that. It’s all very well for Hook to say after the fact that they would have returned for Bae when he was old enough, but for Bae, actions speak louder than words for children. Kids need somoneone they can count on, and Bae was far from convinced he could even trust the man who stole away his mother. Even if Hook entertained fatherly feelings towards Bae, Hook wasn’t a much better parental figure to Bae than Rumple or Milha were.
I’m pretty certain there weren’t divorce laws back then, otherwise couldn’t Regina have just filed for a divorce instead of planning the assassination of King Leopold? So, while Milha and Hook may have been living together on his ship, and they were lovers, they wouldn’t have been husband and wife. I doubt common law marriage would have applied in Hook and Milha’s case, because Milha still had a legal husband, namely Rumplestiltskin. I think common law marriage only applies to two single people who aren’t otherwise legally married to another person. Otherwise, men who keep mistresses would be more like bigamsts if they stay married to their wives.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
It’s all very well for Hook to say after the fact that they would have returned for Bae when he was old enough, but for Bae, actions speak louder than words for children
That line from SOTM angered me so much, more towards Milah and Hook. “When you were old we were going to come back for you, we talked about!” Yes, because showing up after years of thinking his mother is dead, learning that she had abandoned him and just *now* deciding she could take Bae with her is perfectly fine and won’t leave a host of emotional scars. But I digress.
I’m pretty certain there weren’t divorce laws back then, otherwise couldn’t Regina have just filed for a divorce instead of planning the assassination of King Leopold? So, while Milha and Hook may have been living together on his ship, and they were lovers, they wouldn’t have been husband and wife. I doubt common law marriage would have applied in Hook and Milha’s case, because Milha still had a legal husband, namely Rumplestiltskin. I think common law marriage only applies to two single people who aren’t otherwise legally married to another person. Otherwise, men who keep mistresses would be more like bigamsts if they stay married to their wives.
I agree with this but I also think we’re trying to inflict modern real world scenarios on to something that is fantastical (not as in the show is fake, but as in FTL operates by it’s own laws and morals). Rumple and Milah were still married, I agree, in the legal sense of they never got divorced. But do we need to question: what is marriage? Is marriage a binding contract that must be broken before one can enter another binding contract? Or is it something more. I’m playing Devil’s Advocate here but defining marriage is tricky. If Milah and Hook had true love then does that outweigh whatever Rumple and Milah had for a short period of time, especially in a show where TL is given the highest consideration.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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