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March 6, 2013 at 8:45 am #177523
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ParticipantThat whole Phoenix legend connection is awesome. I remember looking up the meaning of Tamara when the casting call went out and thinking, “Palm tree? Well that’s totally random and gives no hint about the character.” So wrong. K&H are so clever.
[adrotate group="5"]March 6, 2013 at 2:30 pm #177569Slurpeez
ParticipantNice find! So hopefully, we’ll see “Tamara” go up in smoke (not literally, ’cause that would be an arsenal offense).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 6, 2013 at 3:56 pm #177586lilred
ParticipantI kind of like Tamara for some reason in the seconds we saw her – she just needs to find another tree to be with or something…I’d offer up Augustbut I guess the spoilers prove that isn't likely to happen!
March 6, 2013 at 5:45 pm #177623lilred
ParticipantQuestion: The chemistry between Once Upon a Time‘s Jennifer Morrison and Michael Raymond-James is amazing. What’s next for Neal and Emma? —Patti
Ausiello: In the short-term, as glimpsed in these pics? A bit of side-by-side sword-brandishing. But as for them reconnecting in more intimate ways, “It’s hard for Emma,” says cocreator Eddy Kitsis. “Their dream was Tallahassee, to just go and get regular jobs — and now he’s doing that with [fiancée Tamara]. And since Emma’s the kind of character who has a wall up around her heart, I’m not sure she wants to admit it hurts her, but we’re definitely going to see that it does. And it affects him because we know that he didn’t want to leave her. He’s in love with her. What happened [in “Manhattan”] is a situation that neither of them ever thought would happen, so now what do you do? That’s what a lot of the rest of the season’s about.”Source: http://tvline.com/2013/03/05/glee-spoilers-rachel-pregnant-ask-ausiello/
I guess the official podcast already confirmed that Bae and Emma are -actively- still in love with the other – but I really didn’t expect a focus on them – and what to do about their feelings – until well into next season.
March 6, 2013 at 6:01 pm #177631tammythebear
ParticipantOMG Lil’ Red I just posted that same quote under “All I want is you”…. that spoiler made my heart do flips, and still does!! I am glad the creators are admitting what we all see
Maybe Tamara will find Hook in the storage closet and they will hit it off. I do wish both characters better stories- so maybe they can find a great one together!!! I would totally ship HookPalm or HookTree… PalmHook…. someone help me out here….
March 8, 2013 at 1:30 am #178101CrownedWithLaurels
ParticipantCaptainTink? If she’s Tinkerbell. TinkerHook? CaptainPixie?
Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.
March 8, 2013 at 2:18 am #178114lilred
ParticipantPretty sure, based on how sweet Tamara seemed, that she deserves better than Hook IMHO. I’d really get a kick if the trees ended up together, even a fling – August and Tamara. But that doesn't seem likely anymore.
March 8, 2013 at 2:58 am #178123dena81
ParticipantMy theory? Somehow August arranged it with Neal to protect her or something like that. So he’s playing the boyfriend/fiancee etc Why? because the filming pics where August and Neal are talking, Tamara doesn't look like she's watching them, it's almost like they're staked out there for her So, the whole coffee bit is setup and that’s why when he sees Emma he’s like “It’s complicated” because I’m sure he wants to be like “I want to tell you the whole story so you don’t think I moved on because I haven’t” After all why did they use that wording? Why did Ausiello focus on that word as did JMo in her interview? Complicated is not what you use to describe, hey it’s been 11 years and I just moved on and fell in love with someone else, sorry. I know some thought it was complicated due to her not being magical which i still don’t believe, there’s too much emphasis. And he’s stuck in this role but he probably cares about Tamara in a way and he also has to keep up the pretense of her protector or whatever and you can’t just say “Oh HAI THIS IS THE COMPLICATED THING” cuz then Tamara will be all “Huh?” so there’s something I think he knwos more of that we havent’ found out yet.
March 8, 2013 at 5:40 pm #178242faux pax
ParticipantFound this theroy on Tumblar and just wanted to share:
http://cypanache.tumblr.com/post/44541688982/things-i-want-for-the-tamara-storyline
I put it as a link because she does such a good job of explaining it. Pretty much, it’s that Tamra is an amnesiac version of Tink and Neal’s trying to protect her.
I really like the idea of him trying to be a protector in some capasity and that that’s why this “love triangle” exists. It would really keep it from becoming just a repeat of last years mm/david/kathryn thing.
On a slightly unrelated note, has any one else seen the Miller’s daughter promo? I must say Espenson is a god. For a scene that’s entirely Rumbelle in dilauge, there is a heavy dose both SwanFire and the Papa/Puppy relationship.
March 8, 2013 at 10:22 pm #178286kfchimera
Participant@dena81 wrote:
My theory? Somehow August arranged it with Neal to protect her or something like that. So he’s playing the boyfriend/fiancee etc Why? because the filming pics where August and Neal are talking, Tamara doesn't look like she's watching them, it's almost like they're staked out there for her So, the whole coffee bit is setup and that’s why when he sees Emma he’s like “It’s complicated” because I’m sure he wants to be like “I want to tell you the whole story so you don’t think I moved on because I haven’t” After all why did they use that wording? Why did Ausiello focus on that word as did JMo in her interview? Complicated is not what you use to describe, hey it’s been 11 years and I just moved on and fell in love with someone else, sorry. I know some thought it was complicated due to her not being magical which i still don’t believe, there’s too much emphasis. And he’s stuck in this role but he probably cares about Tamara in a way and he also has to keep up the pretense of her protector or whatever and you can’t just say “Oh HAI THIS IS THE COMPLICATED THING” cuz then Tamara will be all “Huh?” so there’s something I think he knwos more of that we havent’ found out yet.
The phrase “It’s complicated” is almost a cliche phrase that people use when talking about romantic triangles. There’s even a movie along those lines, titled It’s complicated. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1230414/. So Neal’s “it’s compllicated” may actually not be THAT complex as some big conspiracy. But on this show…we never know!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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