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February 25, 2013 at 9:00 pm #175491lilredParticipant
Oh, that wasn’t mine! Still finalizing editing. Hopefully, mine will be going up in the next few days. 😆
[adrotate group="5"]February 25, 2013 at 9:17 pm #175494mich7Participant@Lil’Red wrote:
Oh, that wasn’t mine! Still finalizing editing. Hopefully, mine will be going up in the next few days. 😆
lol why you little vixen…that was sneaky and totally OUaT worthy 😆 😉
February 25, 2013 at 9:21 pm #175496lilredParticipantWasn’t trying to claim it – might need to edit the first post if it came off that way. I’m having to edit something for an actual class tonight and tomorrow so ONCE fanvid has been pushed back. RL has gotten in the way of fandom once again. 😆
February 25, 2013 at 9:26 pm #175498lilredParticipantEdited the video post – enough people seem to think I’m the scum of the earth on here without me getting accused of stealing someone’s hard work. 😳
February 25, 2013 at 9:28 pm #175499mich7Participant@Lil’Red wrote:
Wasn’t trying to claim it – might need to edit the first post if it came off that way. I’m having to edit something for an actual class tonight and tomorrow so ONCE fanvid has been pushed back. RL has gotten in the way of fandom once again. 😆
lol I didn’t think you really were…I was just teasing….it’s good to keep the thread going with fanvids and such even if it isn’t yours personally. I apologize if I hurt your feelings…my sense of humor is a bit wacky.
February 25, 2013 at 9:50 pm #175505beastwhispererParticipantThat was a lovely vid rec, Lil’Red! I’m loving all the vids, fics, and pictures that folks have done since Manhattan.
February 25, 2013 at 11:25 pm #175515tammythebearParticipantThanks Mich7!! I worked really hard on figuring out how to make that an avatar.
I am Queen of over analysis, so of course I have been going over and over my favorite Manhattan scenes to read between their dialogues and find the true feelings. The alley and bar scenes in Manhattan are my favorite scenes because it is them together again, all alone, charging the air between them and making the sparks fly. It’s like in Tallahassee where you feel like you are looking in on a real private relationship and you get those butterflies like you are the one in love- well, in Manhattan you feel like you are watching a painful reunion of 2 friends you want to get back together- but they aren’t being honest and you can’t jump in, and your heart is breaking but you have let them do it in their own time…. well at least that is what these episodes make me feel. Those moments make me feel like I am there- an invisible fly on the wall watching the world expand and contract around them in their private universe. I LOVE the SwanFire “private universe”.
The way that MRJ and Jennifer play these characters together- with the real story not in their words but in their tone of voice, or in their eyes or face… it adds a whole other level. When they first collide in Manhattan Emma says “Neal” in a different tone- a tone you don’t hear since Tallahassee. Neal says “Emma” in wonder- like it is a private prayer he keeps close to his lips, but thought he would never utter again. He smiles briefly when he says it- clueing us in that he is happy to see her…. Emma looks frightened and vulnerable. I have never seen her so lost. Her vulnerability turns to anger as she rebounds from the shock, but in a way I think she is trying to hide her vulnerability. I love how Neal chuckles a little while he says “I don’t understand what are you doing here”, and starts trying to reassure her when she starts getting mad. (side note: maybe when he says “what are you doing here” all hopeful he thought August told her where he was and he thought she was coming to see him?) I find it interesting that he starts yelling at her when she mentions Rumple and he YELLS “You brought him to me? Why would you do that?”(…. maybe we weren’t privy to something like a scene where he tells her about his dad? They were together at one time…. what DID he tell her about his dad? After she yells at him that she is the only one allowed to be angry he backs off a little because he sees her pain and anger. When she says “was this some sort of sick twisted plan” he looks down like he is ashamed , and then when she says “did you even care about me at all” he looks up and her and gives her a look… … and starts to try to calm her down again. Then Neal starts acting vulnerable and like a child (did you notice his nervousness when he was trying to get her to go to the bar- like a kid afraid he was going to get caught by his dad).
When they go to the bar his whole demeanor changes and he is regretful and sorry. IF I analyzed the bar scene it would take me forever.. But I will say for the rest of the episode there were SO many times when it looked like he wanted to say something. For instance when she says in her completely crushed state “You left me” and there is a pause- he opens his mouth like he is going to say something and then closes it again, and she says “and let me go to prison because Pinocchio told you to!?!?” he says “Emma..” like he wants to say something AGAIN and then she says “I loved you” and he looks down like those 3 words just shot a whole right through his heart and he loses his composure for a second before regaining it. This face says it all though… Emma may be lying to herself- but she isn’t lying to him… CAN’T WAIT for his reaction to the bug… who keeps a car for 11 years??Two other awesome moments that give more clues to their feelings…. Emma’s discovery that Neal kept her dream catcher. I don’t know about you but that face says “WHAAAAT?” as in “WHAAAT- he actually DID care…does care..?”
And then there is this scene where they fall right in line with each other, trying to stick up for each other after he bursts in to defend her from Rumple… the name use was such in a familiar way that Rumple picks up on it instantly. Emma gives Neal the “Please don’t tell him!” look which Neal returns with this look like “don’t worry” , and then when Rumple catches on yelling “YOU TWO KNOW EACH OTHER” (…. yeah Rumps… I don’t know how you didn’t see THAT coming) there is this brief awkward moment where Neal looks like he is going to start to say something before Henry comes in calling Emma “Mom” and throwing ANOTHER monkey wrench into the mix….
Sorry I know that was super long and I could keep going… but I will spare you all -hahaha!!
February 25, 2013 at 11:38 pm #175517tiara_roseParticipantI think that when Emma saw the dream catcher. She heard the voice from Rumple again, who was telling her just before: “We look into his apartment. Then we see, who he is and WHO HE LOVE.”
I know this are not the exact words.Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
February 25, 2013 at 11:52 pm #175519tammythebearParticipant@tiara_rose wrote:
I think that when Emma saw the dream catcher. She heard the voice from Rumple again, who was telling her just before: “We look into his apartment. Then we see, who he is and WHO HE LOVE.”
I know this are not the exact words.ooh SUCH A GOOD CATCH!!! I didn’t have the sound on and was watching in slow-mo 😉 Yet ANOTHER clue… I didn’t see a picture of him a Tamara.. or anything that said she was important… Did anyone else??
February 26, 2013 at 2:12 am #175538mich7Participant@tammythebear wrote:
@tiara_rose wrote:
I think that when Emma saw the dream catcher. She heard the voice from Rumple again, who was telling her just before: “We look into his apartment. Then we see, who he is and WHO HE LOVE.”
I know this are not the exact words.ooh SUCH A GOOD CATCH!!! I didn’t have the sound on and was watching in slow-mo 😉 Yet ANOTHER clue… I didn’t see a picture of him a Tamara.. or anything that said she was important… Did anyone else??
You’d think if there was a picture of Tamara there they would have found it and mentioned it. I still think she pursued him and he’s just with her to try and move on. If Emma had given him any indication that she still had feelings for him I think he would have dropped Tamara pretty quickly…and that may be what it takes to get them back together…Emma is the one that is going to have to admit her feelings (as long as the writers continue in that direction…fingers crossed).
ETA: I kind of think that Neal’s reaction to Emma when he first sees her and says her name screams that he still loves her imo.
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