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February 27, 2013 at 7:06 am #175709PheeParticipant
@dena81 wrote:
And that’s why my panic calmed down and I just kept thinking you couldn’t make him Bae, bring him back into her life, show this whole him barely able to look at her as he pointed to the keychain, a simple cheap keychain he stole and gave to her they both felt so overwhelmed by. Even I keep mentioning her hand clenched and unclenched over it, shook in this way as he pointed she had it on. I’m sorry but if it was really just there to remind her not to trust anyone, why such a reaction like he had caught her?
You just know that he totally stuck that keychain in his pocket when she went outside to call Snow, and one day we’ll see him give it back to her. 😉
[adrotate group="5"]February 27, 2013 at 2:54 pm #175736SlurpeezParticipant@Phee wrote:
@dena81 wrote:
And that’s why my panic calmed down and I just kept thinking you couldn’t make him Bae, bring him back into her life, show this whole him barely able to look at her as he pointed to the keychain, a simple cheap keychain he stole and gave to her they both felt so overwhelmed by. Even I keep mentioning her hand clenched and unclenched over it, shook in this way as he pointed she had it on. I’m sorry but if it was really just there to remind her not to trust anyone, why such a reaction like he had caught her?
You just know that he totally stuck that keychain in his pocket when she went outside to call Snow, and one day we’ll see him give it back to her. 😉
😀 Awwwwwwe! I really love that idea! Please, OUAT writers, make this happen.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 28, 2013 at 3:12 am #175850lilredParticipantI'm guessing everyone here will be having sweet Swanfire dreams tonight. 😀 And Rumpel ships Swanfire! 😆
February 28, 2013 at 3:23 am #175855heatherc1275Participant@Lil’Red wrote:
I'm guessing everyone here will be having sweet Swanfire dreams tonight. 😀 And Rumpel ships Swanfire! 😆
Hehe, this entire statement needs to be unspoilered for everyone because it rocks that hard, LOL 😆
#MoreBOOMLessGloomFebruary 28, 2013 at 1:11 pm #175877naomiParticipantHere’s some more happiness for everybody. (Sorry if it’s already been posted.)
February 28, 2013 at 1:27 pm #175879antbeeParticipantI was just going to post that Naomi after seeing it on Tumblr just now. 😀
Aw, so cute, but now I know that they’re trying to kill me by making my ovaries explode. Of course, at the same time I feel even worse for the SwanFire family because Neal and Emma would have made great parents to Henry, and they all missed out on that chance due to the Curse.
Hopefully, this won’t be too controversial, but I wonder where Regina fits it into SwanFire’s happy ending, if it’s endgame, because I’ve read a lot of endgame stories that just ignore her or have her written off somehow. Just because I can already read all the hate that a SwanFire ending plus Regina’s death ending would cause, I’d rather have an ending where they can all get along with each other, but at the same time I really want Regina to redeem herself and not have the writers do some kind of cop out where she really doesn’t and have her still get a happy ending.
February 28, 2013 at 1:39 pm #175882RumplesGirlKeymasterAdorableness overload Naomi!!!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 28, 2013 at 2:24 pm #175887SlurpeezParticipant@AntBee wrote:
Hopefully, this won’t be too controversial, but I wonder where Regina fits it into SwanFire’s happy ending, if it’s endgame, because I’ve read a lot of endgame stories that just ignore her or have her written off somehow. Just because I can already read all the hate that a SwanFire ending plus Regina’s death ending would cause, I’d rather have an ending where they can all get along with each other, but at the same time I really want Regina to redeem herself and not have the writers do some kind of cop out where she really doesn’t and have her still get a happy ending.
While I risk angering Regina fans, I think she has had numerous chances to earn Henry’s love. She first lost it when she gaslighted Henry by making him believe he was delusional, when all along, he was right about her being the Evil Queen. Though Regina realized how much she loves Henry when she nearly killed him with her poisoned apple and tried to reform when she saved Emma and Snow, I think Cora being back spells as sad ending for Regina. She may reform at the last minute to save Henry from her mother, but it could come at a great personal sacrifice for Regina. If she doesn’t pay with her own life, she may pay by losing Henry forever. What makes it so tragic is that it wasn’t so long ago that she really wanted to reform for Henry’s sake.
Also, I don’t think Regina has any real legal claim to Henry. When Mr. Gold procured Henry for her, I think it was done on the black market of child trafficking. In 1×8 when Regina said Emma had no legal claim to Henry, Mr. Gold tauntingly said, “Now who’s triffling with technicalities?” all the while having a knowing smirk on his face. As a lawyer, Mr. Gold knows that Regina couldn’t keep Henry if there were to be a custody hearing, especially in a town where Regina cursed everyone. Good luck finding a jury of her peers who would be unbiased against her. Everyone in that town, with perhaps the exception of King George and Nurse Ratchet, would have a personal vendetta against Regina. That is why Regina is giving into temptation to use magic to get Henry, which is ironic, because she very astutely said early in episode 2×2 We Are Both that you can’t force someone to love you.
I don’t know how to love very well. I wasn’t capable of it for a very long time, but I know I remember… If you hold onto someone too hard, that doesn’t make them love you. I’m sorry I lied to you. And that I made you feel like I didn’t know who you are. But I want you to be here, because you want to be here. Not because I forced you, and not because of magic. I want to redeem myself. Go get your things.
Now all I see is Regina backpedaling and undoing all of the wonderful things she learned after Emma broke the curse. Of course, it is Cora who is tempting her to resort to evilness, but surely, I thought Regina would be able to see through her mother’s deceit after what Cora did to Daniel. Yet, we see Regina tragically giving into pure evil by plotting mass murder. Mary Margaret was right all along when she said making others miserable won’t make Regina happy and would only leave a huge hole in her heart. I see Regina is miserable, but the solution is not to plot to kill all of Henry’s relatives by controlling the Dark One. If there is anything Regina should’ve realized it’s that Henry is very smart and can see through Regina’s web of lies. He saw through the dark curse and figured out how to break it; Henry’s going to realize it was Regina who put Mr. Gold up to killing everyone. Does Regina truly think she can have Henry by plotting the mass murder of his family? Henry would rather die to protect his loved ones from Regina than see any of them harmed.
Perhaps Regina’s “price” for all of the evil she has done is that she can never have Henry back exclusively, and there is no happy ending for her and Henry. In the end, she may act heroically to protect Henry from Cora, but really, it will have all been her fault in the first place for partnering with a snake like Cora. Though evil isn’t born, it’s made, Regina still had the choice to listen to Cora, again. Maybe if Regina could just learn to let Henry go, which would be an act of great maternal love and sacrifice, Regina could eventually find love again with another man like Killian Jones (he’s just like her) and start a family of her own. But as long as Regina selfishly clings to Henry by plotting to murder his parents/grandparents, she is a lost cause, IMO.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
February 28, 2013 at 5:15 pm #175920lilredParticipantThat picture just hit me right in the feels! So – this would be filming Lacey then…right? I think I'm officially behind in the schedules for filming. 😀 Henry is going to be very interesting in a couple of year – master swordsmen on all sides training him.
February 28, 2013 at 8:31 pm #175968naomiParticipantMaybe Charming and Nealfire will have a friendly duel. Because, you know. I want them to bond despite being adorably suspicious of each other.
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