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February 27, 2013 at 5:35 am #175702dena81Participant
Am I one of the few who doesn’t want to despise her? I mean it’s just too cliche. It reminds me of Glee and how Jesse St. James was ONLY there to cause disturbance in the finchel ship -.- and I really liked him and I wanted to develop a background story for him. Like Kathryn, I wanted her to find her Frederick, I wanted to see them get together just for the simple fact HE WAS THE ONE FOUND HER CAR ON THE SIDE OF TEH ROAD! It was like this subtle hint at this deeper love between them that was just left like that car on the side of the road. I want to like Tamara I want it to be some kinda plot either with her and August or her and Neal where they do this pretending engagement or maybe she’s doing it for a greater purpose to get inside and help the SB gang….or maybe she’s lost too, being with him to quell some type of loneliness only to go to SB and discover this long lost love and flock to him. I’d like that story because Once is all about the neutral gray area of a person. That not everything is light and pure or dark and evil. There is this gray where everything fits into and that even stands for women after our ship. They can still be endgame without her being horrible. Plus after listening to Jane Espenson’s description about why Rumbelle is going through turmoil, it felt like it applied to Swanthief too. She said how good parts of a relationship happen off camera, rarely do they take part on screen. So why give our couple so many obstacles if they’re not meant ot be? Sorry but there’s no captain Swan obstacle, just chemistry but seriously he has chemistry with any female he talks to, it’s his personality. Doesn’t mean they are meant and he’s far too dedicated to the memory of Milah
[adrotate group="5"]February 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm #175719mich7ParticipantThat was one of the things that bothered me about Season one…Frederick found the car and then we don’t see Frederick again (from what I remember…I could be getting episodes backwards)…but regardless it was just dropped…Kathryn was there only to cause conflict between MM and David.
I bet Tamara is there for the same reason…to cause conflict…and she’s totally unnecessary…there is already conflict between Swanfire. They certainly don’t have a triangle (yet) for Rumbelle and that romance is total angst. The triangle (imo) is overdone…almost every tv show that has a romance uses it to death. And every time they add a new character for this kind of thing it cuts down on the screen time the established characters have and on a ensemble show that can be a considerable amount of screen time.
She may be a likable character in the end…for me that doesn’t matter…the purpose she already serves is enough for me to dislike her.
February 27, 2013 at 1:39 pm #175727RumplesGirlKeymasterI’m actually very sure that her character is going to be very likable. They want us to struggle with the new triangle, and make it harder for Neal to leave her for Emma.
But her purpose on the show makes me disinclined to like her too much. And if she is Tinkerbell, that only add to it. I couldn’t stand that fairy in the movie."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 27, 2013 at 2:00 pm #175728antbeeParticipantI want to give the character a chance, so I definitely agree with dena81 because I don’t really feel like she’s a big threat to SwanFire at all because I think they’ll be endgame as long Jennifer Morrison and MRJ stay on the show and don’t pull a David Caruso or something along those lines. They both seem like cool people, so I can’t see them leaving the show sooner than expected.
However, I do agree with Mich7 and RumplesGirl that they didn’t even need a love triangle between Neal and Emma or even love rectangle with Hook if that’s what they’re planning, and that if Tamara is only there for that purpose, then I’m not going to be too happy. I do hope that there’s something more there then just a regular love triangle, but unfortunately I have to admit that the OUaT writers have weaknesses, so even though I’m hoping there’s more to this fiancee story then there seems to be, I’m preparing myself for them just to play it straight.
February 28, 2013 at 3:47 am #175857dena81ParticipantAgreed with all of you really, we don’t need a love triangle. Seeing from the last sneak peek, Emma’s guard is still far up around him. No matter what he says she just can’t trust him….think about it 10 years of believing one thing and then that person comes and says “Heyyy I did it because i knew you were Snow White and Prince Charming’s kid so Iw anted you to get back to them” I’m so sure you’d just jump in their arms….especially Emma and I think soon enough he’s gonna really figure out how she is now. I think at first he’s just like they said in the podcast, okay she closed that door on me so I’m giving up but I don’t think he gets just how damaged she is. For 27 years of her life, he was that one glimmer of hope she had where she opened herself.
I go back to this interview the captain swan shippers are pushing around where JMo says something about a glimpse of hope….but she says glimpse with him and Graham and I think tha’ts just signs of where she’s ready to give trust but she’s scared….I still say she needs to get it back from Neal before she can fully get it again.
February 28, 2013 at 12:38 pm #175875naomiParticipantSometimes, sadly, it’s not the character themselves but who they’re up against.
I have a feeling that even if Tamara is a wonderful person – the perfect girlfriend who is sweet and witty and charming and understanding, with a compelling backstory – it doesn’t matter. She’s against Emma. In fact, the more perfect she is, the more the audience will likely sympathize with Emma. If Tamara is flawed – pushy, and interfering with Henry like some people guessed – the audience will still sympathize with Emma. Has anyone seen the new sneak peek? Well, it looks like even Rumple will be on Emma's side if it ever came to a love triangle. So would Snow and Charming. So would the dwarves and Belle and Red and Granny, probably.
Basically, Tamara is a someone who is preventing the main protagonist of the show from getting what they want. That’s just….I don’t see how this could end happily for all those involved. It’ll cause pain for Emma (basically Neal will break her heart a second time), and…I just don’t like it. There are so many ways, like you guys mentioned, that SwanFire could have conflict that do not involve a love triangle.
Also…from the spoiler photos some ppl have speculated that Neal and Tamara met shortly before curse-break, when Augst was on his way to SB. If that's true, then I admit this makes me feel a little resentment towards Neal. Couldn't he have waited? It was so close to her 28th birthday, and he knew she would be free. And to get engaged in that time…doesn't scream “true love” ala SnowxCharming to me. If it must happen, I guess I'm interested to see how it happened.
February 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm #175880RumplesGirlKeymasterI think they’re going to make Tamara as nice as humanly possible so it becomes harder for us to outright hate her. I wonder how Rumple will react to her. In the latest sneak peak for the Queen is Dead Rumple appears to ship SwanFire.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 28, 2013 at 1:35 pm #175881naomiParticipantThe Rumple and Emma dialogue was adorable. He totally wants her to be daughter-in-law. 😛
February 28, 2013 at 7:24 pm #175951lisasParticipant@Naomi wrote:
The Rumple and Emma dialogue was adorable. He totally wants her to be daughter-in-law. 😛
I got that impression as well. Rumple totally wants Neal & Emma together
February 28, 2013 at 7:44 pm #175956raulybarraParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I do think Henry is going to try and put Emma and NealFire together, he believes in true love so much. I also think Tamara is going to be slightly freaked out by the fact that her fiance suddenly has an 11 yr old son.
Exactly! That’s what I’ve been wondering. If – and I don’t trust the show’s writers a bit, when it comes to misdirecting us – and I say IF this Tamara is really Neal’s fiance in realtime, how is she going to react to find out that he has an 11 year old son? And I can’t wait until she meets her future father-in-law…
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