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March 19, 2013 at 4:40 am #180809lisasParticipant
Okay I just had a radical idea. You all know how many of us have speculated for awhile that The Blue Fairy aka Mother Superior is the one who turns August back into a boy based upon the spoiler pics. What if it is Tamara who has magic of her own and turns August back into a little boy to keep him from spilling everything he knows about her a & her intentions about Storybrooke, Neal and possibly Rumple to Emma, Neal, David & Rumple. Because the more I watch those promos. the more I am inclined to think that she may have known August before meeting Neal. I'm thinking she could be a dark fairy from FTL .
[adrotate group="5"]March 19, 2013 at 4:58 am #180812PheeParticipantLisaS there should be spoiler tags on that post!
March 19, 2013 at 12:35 pm #180848RumplesGirlKeymaster@LisaS wrote:
Okay I just had a radical idea. You all know how many of us have speculated for awhile that The Blue Fairy aka Mother Superior is the one who turns August back into a boy based upon the spoiler pics. What if it is Tamara who has magic of her own and turns August back into a little boy to keep him from spilling everything he knows about her a & her intentions about Storybrooke, Neal and possibly Rumple to Emma, Neal, David & Rumple. Because the more I watch those promos. the more I am inclined to think that she may have known August before meeting Neal. I'm thinking she could be a dark fairy from FTL .
Hmmmmm. Interesting. All this time I’ve been thinking Blue would turn him back into a boy in order to keep August from spilling their secrets but it could Tamara is doing the same thing and really Blue is trying to help him in those spoiler pics
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 20, 2013 at 3:03 am #181069erinParticipantI wonder if she is Morgan le Fay?
March 20, 2013 at 7:05 am #181087March 20, 2013 at 8:51 am #181093PheeParticipant@LisaS wrote:
@Erin wrote:
I wonder if she is Morgan le Fay?
Erin who is Morgan le Fay ?
Powerful and nasty sorceress of Arthurian legend. If they plan to go back at some point and show that Lancelot isn’t dead in present day FTL, Morgana could be a possible candidate to connect the storylines, I suppose.
March 20, 2013 at 12:01 pm #181100emma-bae-henryParticipantWow… Morgan le Fay is an excellent candidate.
She is a dark fairy with a gift of healing. She is very beautifully, smart/sneaky, seductive, maniputive (especially of gentlemen).
She caused the fall of Lancelot from the round table (in a manipulative way). She liked him a lot and tried to force him to love her 🙂
She needs to control people and loves power/magic. When she failed in stealing King Author’s Excalibur, she threw the shaft in river and went into hiding….She is a Healer and has an ability to shape change… Is that how she met August? Is she Dragon in disguise? What is the “great” price August pay to that healer?
She knows magic and is accustomed to manipulate men. Attempt to force Lancelot to love her. Does she know the empty heart spell? If so, did she already use it on Bae? It will be interesting if Bae is under the spell thinking that he loves her. But like the Charmings under the curse in Season one, Bae is still drawn to Emma based on his true (?) love.
Here are some info on Morgan le Fay posted on internet If Tamara is Morgan le Fay, it will be a great story. She is very powerful, smart and very beautiful. She seems to be even more powerful than Cora…. Maybe at almost the level of Rumpel the dark one. Also I like see Lancelot again even if it is a flashback.
Morgan Le Fay: popularly known as Arthurian sorceress, benevolent fairy, priestess, dark magician, enchantress, witch, sea goddess, shape-changer, healer, and the sole personage of Avalon the Isle of Apples, not to mention daughter of Ygerna (Igraine) and Gorlois, half-sister to King Arthur, mother of Mordred, lady-in-waiting to Guinevere, wife of Uriens, lover of Sir Accolon, fancier of Sir Lancelot, and ‘as fair a lady as any might be’.
She could change shape at will (and to be young or old, beautiful or ugly, or an animal or other object) and to fly with wings, hence – ‘Le Fay’, or Faerie.
She is more typically portrayed as a wicked enchantress who learned her crafts in a Christian nunnery, powers which were subsequently extended with the help of Merlin. She was referred to later as Arthur’s sister (and again as a healer), and in Le Chevalier au Lion her ointments cured Yvain’s madness.
In the The Vulgate Cycle (1215 to 1235) Morgan Le Fay is however married to Uriens. She is also Queen Guinevere’s lady in waiting and fell in love with the King’s nephew, Giomar, but Guinevere put an end to the romance. Morgan responded by betraying the Queen’s affair with Lancelot to King Arthur. She had herself become infatuated with Sir Lancelot though he consistently refused her attentions, despite being imprisoned by her several times.
In Arthur legends, she represents control, sorcery, and manipulation. She uses underhanded, often manipulative methodsto create her power. During King Arthur’s reign, and in various romances and folk tales, Morgan shows up as a shape-shifter. She is a fairy, a queen, a mermaid, a beautiful young woman, a crone, a hag, an enchantress or a witch.
In some accounts, Morgan has a bad reputation; she is evil, sexual, a temptress.Morgan needs to be in control of people and situations. In some of the legends, Morgan is said to have been a mistress of Merlin. She uses and manipulates him by way of seduction in order to gain knowledge of his spells. Hence the name Morgaine may be read as an anagram, “Gain More.” Morgan Le Fay manipulates situations in order to cause pain for people, especially Arthur. For instance, in courtship of Guinevere and Lancelot, Morgan uses her powers to destroy the ties in the court of Arthur to ruin his reputation and pride.
The best way for Morgan to hurt Arthur and cause him the most pain is to manipulate this situation between Guinevere and Lancelot, both of whom have the highest part of Arthur’s love and pride. Morgan “distressed Camelot with hints about Lancelot’s motives, and the intrigue, now serious, between him and Guinevere” (Ashe 39). She slanders Lancelot and Guinevere’s name in Camelot, and the rest of England, without any remorse or regret: “At Lancelot’s knighting, Arthur forgets to gird on his sword; it is Guinevere who does this, thus creating a formal feudal bond between them which is soon reinforced by that of love. And Lancelot and Guinevere become lovers on the night Arthur sleeps with the enchantress Camille. Arthur then repudiates Guinevere in favour of the false Guinevere, a magical creation of Morgan Le Fay, thus further weakening his claim to her loyalty” (Barber73).
Morgan does quite a good job in the destroying King Arthur and his kingdom. All of this chaos is created by Morgan; her shape-shifting creation, Camille, sleeps with Arthur, causing his adultery. The name “Camille” may also be read as an anagram, “came ill” or “ill came,” a most appropriate explanation for Morgan’s doings.
March 20, 2013 at 1:17 pm #181112lisasParticipant@Emma-Bae-Henry wrote:
Wow… Morgan le Fay is an excellent candidate.
She is a dark fairy with a gift of healing. She is very beautifully, smart/sneaky, seductive, maniputive (especially of gentlemen).
She caused the fall of Lancelot from the round table (in a manipulative way). She liked him a lot and tried to force him to love her 🙂
She needs to control people and loves power/magic. When she failed in stealing King Author’s Excalibur, she threw the shaft in river and went into hiding….She is a Healer and has an ability to shape change… Is that how she met August? Is she Dragon in disguise? What is the “great” price August pay to that healer?
She knows magic and is accustomed to manipulate men. Attempt to force Lancelot to love her. Does she know the empty heart spell? If so, did she already use it on Bae? It will be interesting if Bae is under the spell thinking that he loves her. But like the Charmings under the curse in Season one, Bae is still drawn to Emma based on his true (?) love.
Here are some info on Morgan le Fay posted on internet If Tamara is Morgan le Fay, it will be a great story. She is very powerful, smart and very beautiful. She seems to be even more powerful than Cora…. Maybe at almost the level of Rumpel the dark one. Also I like see Lancelot again even if it is a flashback.
Morgan Le Fay: popularly known as Arthurian sorceress, benevolent fairy, priestess, dark magician, enchantress, witch, sea goddess, shape-changer, healer, and the sole personage of Avalon the Isle of Apples, not to mention daughter of Ygerna (Igraine) and Gorlois, half-sister to King Arthur, mother of Mordred, lady-in-waiting to Guinevere, wife of Uriens, lover of Sir Accolon, fancier of Sir Lancelot, and ‘as fair a lady as any might be’.
She could change shape at will (and to be young or old, beautiful or ugly, or an animal or other object) and to fly with wings, hence – ‘Le Fay’, or Faerie.
She is more typically portrayed as a wicked enchantress who learned her crafts in a Christian nunnery, powers which were subsequently extended with the help of Merlin. She was referred to later as Arthur’s sister (and again as a healer), and in Le Chevalier au Lion her ointments cured Yvain’s madness.
In the The Vulgate Cycle (1215 to 1235) Morgan Le Fay is however married to Uriens. She is also Queen Guinevere’s lady in waiting and fell in love with the King’s nephew, Giomar, but Guinevere put an end to the romance. Morgan responded by betraying the Queen’s affair with Lancelot to King Arthur. She had herself become infatuated with Sir Lancelot though he consistently refused her attentions, despite being imprisoned by her several times.
In Arthur legends, she represents control, sorcery, and manipulation. She uses underhanded, often manipulative methodsto create her power. During King Arthur’s reign, and in various romances and folk tales, Morgan shows up as a shape-shifter. She is a fairy, a queen, a mermaid, a beautiful young woman, a crone, a hag, an enchantress or a witch.
In some accounts, Morgan has a bad reputation; she is evil, sexual, a temptress.Morgan needs to be in control of people and situations. In some of the legends, Morgan is said to have been a mistress of Merlin. She uses and manipulates him by way of seduction in order to gain knowledge of his spells. Hence the name Morgaine may be read as an anagram, “Gain More.” Morgan Le Fay manipulates situations in order to cause pain for people, especially Arthur. For instance, in courtship of Guinevere and Lancelot, Morgan uses her powers to destroy the ties in the court of Arthur to ruin his reputation and pride.
The best way for Morgan to hurt Arthur and cause him the most pain is to manipulate this situation between Guinevere and Lancelot, both of whom have the highest part of Arthur’s love and pride. Morgan “distressed Camelot with hints about Lancelot’s motives, and the intrigue, now serious, between him and Guinevere” (Ashe 39). She slanders Lancelot and Guinevere’s name in Camelot, and the rest of England, without any remorse or regret: “At Lancelot’s knighting, Arthur forgets to gird on his sword; it is Guinevere who does this, thus creating a formal feudal bond between them which is soon reinforced by that of love. And Lancelot and Guinevere become lovers on the night Arthur sleeps with the enchantress Camille. Arthur then repudiates Guinevere in favour of the false Guinevere, a magical creation of Morgan Le Fay, thus further weakening his claim to her loyalty” (Barber73).
Morgan does quite a good job in the destroying King Arthur and his kingdom. All of this chaos is created by Morgan; her shape-shifting creation, Camille, sleeps with Arthur, causing his adultery. The name “Camille” may also be read as an anagram, “came ill” or “ill came,” a most appropriate explanation for Morgan’s doings.
Hmmm That is interesting and that could be just who Tamara is.
March 20, 2013 at 1:21 pm #181117SlurpeezParticipantI just saw this on Tumblr. It’s an image of a palm tree in 2×4. Tamara means palm tree. Talk about foreshadowing!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
March 20, 2013 at 1:25 pm #181119RumplesGirlKeymasterI wonder if with that picture they’re not only foreshadowing Bae and Tamara but hinting that Tamara has been around as far back as Pre-Dark One Rumple. Might lend some credence to the notion that Tamara is a Dark Fairy since we know Fairies have been around forever.
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