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I didn’t think they were going to kill off Emma either, but now that they are thinking about possibly keeping the show going for years, they might.
[adrotate group="5"]I didn’t think they were going to kill off Emma either, but now that they are thinking about possibly keeping the show going for years, they might.
I kinda agree here. I think one thing that definetely kept Emma safe in the past is that she was the star of the show.
But I could see them killing her off in order to use that as a way to develop Henry’s character. Doesn’t even have to be that she was murdered by a villain. People just die and their loved ones have to learn to move on and all that.
I doubt that will happen but it could. She isn’t the star anymore, this isn’t her story, and if all goes extremely well, we could have a few more seasons with just Henry and his new family. Emma Isn’t necessary anymore
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The loss Hook may be feeling is Emma, as Jennifer Morrison is only slated to return for one episode — the second episode, which is Hook-centric, is slated to reveal why Emma is not along for the ride. Episode 2 is going to answer what has happened with Emma and Captain Hook and episode 4 will answer that very question for Belle,” executive producer Edward Kitsis said. “We are not looking to get rid of any of the happy endings, but we are moving forward and we think we have a way to achieve both things.”
I’m not sure how they’d be able to preserve both the happy endings, while explaining Emma and Belle’s absences, like they said if it meant killing either of them off.
We are not looking to get rid of any of the happy endings, but we are moving forward and we think we have a way to achieve both things.”
I agree that this seems to be a slam against the “Emma’s dead” theory (not to mention that killing Emma is cruel and would appear to be a slap in the face after six years of watching her story unfold).
But I also think that it could gotten around (inelegantly) by saying that Emma got her happy ending for a brief period of time, and it was great and it was glorious, but she’s still mortal after all and everything and everyone ends eventually–either in a mundane or supernatural way. Then the writers pivot and say that “moving forward” and “not destroying the happy ending” means putting Hook back with Emma’s family to carry on her legacy by helping Henry save his (Henry’s) True Love.
For me, it comes down to this: killing Emma is a terrible choice to make for a variety of reasons (cruel, goes against the narrative of the show, a disservice to the fans and to the character) BUT it’s the easiest option in the room given that JMo is against coming back for more than one episode. And…well, these writers often take the easy way out when it’s presented to them and then they spin it into narrative angst.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"For me, it comes down to this: killing Emma is a terrible choice to make for a variety of reasons (cruel, goes against the narrative of the show, a disservice to the fans and to the character) BUT it’s the easiest option in the room given that JMo is against coming back for more than one episode. And…well, these writers often take the easy way out when it’s presented to them and then they spin it into narrative angst.
And I already predict that at least some fans would place a portion of the blame on JMo, if they were to kill Emma off. After all, they did want her back as a regular for Season 7, but she turned them down, opting to just return for 1 episode. So those fans would come to the conclusion that Emma wouldn’t have been killed had JMo agreed to stay on. But yeah, killing Emma would be the most controversial death they could possibly make. She was once the main character for a total of 6 Seasons, and has by far more fans within the fandom than say Neal or Robin. The backlash they’d receive would be astronomical by comparison, and they need to retain as much of their remaining viewership as much as they possibly can.
Not to mention, if they really felt like they needed to kill off Emma to write around JMo’s lack of availability, then it would have made a ton more sense to have her die during the Final Battle instead. After all, JMo reportedly made her decision before they filmed last Season’s finale, so it’s not like they didn’t already know at the time. Having her actually succeed in the Final Battle, but come back for 1 episode in Season 7 just to kill her off would feel like a slap in the face.
Regarding the “kill off Emma theory”, this part of the TCA panel makes me believe otherwise:
The loss Hook may be feeling is Emma, as Jennifer Morrison is only slated to return for one episode — the second episode, which is Hook-centric, is slated to reveal why Emma is not along for the ride. Episode 2 is going to answer what has happened with Emma and Captain Hook and episode 4 will answer that very question for Belle,” executive producer Edward Kitsis said. “We are not looking to get rid of any of the happy endings, but we are moving forward and we think we have a way to achieve both things.”
I’m not sure how they’d be able to preserve both the happy endings, while explaining Emma and Belle’s absences, like they said if it meant killing either of them off.
I hear that. I just think for me the happy ending has already been lost if Henry hasn’t seen his family in twenty years. I don’t see how the show could think that is reasonable and yet they did it. The way the writers were saying we wanted the fan to enjoy the summer and enjoy their time with the happy endings made me wonder back then. I don’t know what they are going to do, but if Jennifer Morrison won’t come back again whatever Emma’s ending is, it is away from her son, so she might as well be dead at that point. They have to explain it away and i don’t see how they do otherwise. I don’t get how her final episode is wasted with Hook. If any of those things can happen, things that are ridiculous and out of character and terrible writing, then killing her seems possible.
No, they straight up said “nope” when asked if there were plans for JMo to return for more than one episode. Doesn’t mean that plans can’t be made at some point in the future, but let’s not add words into A and E’s mouth.
They have not planned the finale. Which is probably when JMO and the others would return. So I imagine that is what happened. They have not planned the finale nor could they ask JMO just yet when it’s 7 months from now. That’s not how this would work.
Personally, I’m not sure Emma is dead but they need to come up with a fairly reasonable excuse for why she’s not with the rest of the gang helping Henry, especially since we know Adult!Henry sends for his family to help him in UniverseB EF. Why didn’t Emma go? And why isn’t she looking for Hook, Rumple, Regina and Henry *now* after this new curse was cast? She was a bail bonds person and then a sheriff on top of being a magical Savior. To not have her help Henry first and then to not have her actively looking for her family would be…bizarre.
Well I’ve got a good excuse. That scene with her, Henry, and Hook in the woods that is supposed to have a good surprise. Probably her announcing to the boys that she’s pregnant. That could be a very good reason why she’s not with the others, cause she’s pregnant. We also don’t know how long they’ve been cursed but I imagine time moves very different in EF 2. For all we know by the finale when Hook returns Emma will be ready to give birth or something.
Another thing could be Hook and her decided that they can’t both go because they have a child together and they don’t want that child to be left an orphan. So Hook, Emma’s husband decides to go in Emma’s place to go help his step son while Emma is at home with the CS baby/toddler, etc. Emma trusts Hook, so she would trust him with his task.
She’d probably figure he’d be gone for a while and we don’t know how much time has past. I doubt much time has passed in SB tbh.
I didn’t think they were going to kill off Emma either, but now that they are thinking about possibly keeping the show going for years, they might.
Just cause they’re thinking about keeping the show for years doesn’t mean our returning regulars will be sticking around. I firmly believe this is a transitional season and should this show get an 8th season this will be the last for Colin, Bobby, and Lana. The only one that could stay is Lana cause Regina’s happy ending would probably be wherever Henry is. But for Hook and Rumple HH is not part of their happy ending. Their happy endings are their true loves and families. They would not stay in HH’s. Especially in Hook’s when he knows what his sense of loss is aka separation from Emma.
And from that perspective–the needing to solve the elephant in the room perspective–it’s easier to have had her die at some point during the 20 yr gap.
I highly doubt it’s been 20 years. I’m very sure time runs very different in EF 2 and Henry aging is gonna be explained by the fact that he jumped through realms a lot.
He wouldn’t be able to feel loss or like something is “off” if she was dead? Only if they are separated? That’s not how emotions work.
No that’s not what I said. What I said was he can feel something is off, a sense of loss. That loss is Emma and him being separated from her. If she was dead he would not feel loss. He would feel empty.
On the show Hook and Emma can feel each other. This happened during the Underworld arc and Emma could no longer feel Hook when she was alive and he was dead in 5×21. She even said it, that she could not feel him anymore during her speech. This also happened in the S6 finale. So the fact that he can feel a sense of loss means Emma is still alive, they’re just separated. Emma is probably in SB with their child.
I also highly doubt it’s been a long time. I imagine veyr little time has passed cause as we saw Lucy did not age in the finale. So only a few months may have passed and we all know these writers suck with their timelines and seasons could take place all within the span of a month or two. So the reason Emma could not be helping Henry is because she can’t cause she’s pregnant and with Regina and Rumple out of SB, Emma is the only thing that can protect SB from anything that happens. As I imagine Zelena probably went back to Oz. Zelena and Emma would be the only beings with magic left in SB to protect it. So maybe that’s why Emma stayed. Cause Regina is going and she trusts her husband to go in her place.
I actually think before they even get started on the season they have to have some kind of outline and I don’t see why they would have said no if the possibility was that Emma could return outside her one episode.
It’s mot really a matter of what they want. JMO doesn’t wish to return. She said one episode. They said she will only be in one episode. I think we should just accept that.
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Gideon, though.
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I highly doubt it’s been 20 years. I’m very sure time runs very different in EF 2 and Henry aging is gonna be explained by the fact that he jumped through realms a lot.
Gideon, though.
Gideon’s first appearance on the show was in a dream of Belle’s in Pandora’s Box. The same kind of scenario can happen here. Gideon’s appearance can be a dream appearance for curse Rumple. Gideon could try to find rumple via his dreams by using his adult form and for the audience we would recognize that form of Gideon.
Does not mean that what we will see is aged up Gideon in the real world.
I don’t see them aging up our cast. Mainly because there’s no way I see them having all the characters not returning be senior citizens while the crew in the curse is young. That would just be sad and nobody would like that. Plus Emma did not age nor did Hook in the flashback with them with adult Henry.
I actually think before they even get started on the season they have to have some kind of outline and I don’t see why they would have said no if the possibility was that Emma could return outside her one episode.
I disagree. We’ve seen multiple times how these writers switch plans consistently in one season. I think maybe they’ve planned to the mid-season finale but not the finale. Because they don’t know if they’re planning for a season or series finale yet. Probably gonna be a series cause like all reboots this will flop.
JMO and all the rest that left I’m sure would return for a series finale which is also why I said that there’s no way they’d age our old cast to senior citizens. Because hook rumple and Regina would probably go back to SB. They’re going back to all their loved ones being 20 yrs older then him. Nobody wants that.
There’s also the possibility they said nope because they’re anal about their stupid spoilers so they wouldn’t want to reveal what happens in 7×02. Maybe after 7×02 depending on what happens they’ll be more open about her coming back then, because the door would have been left open.
No I do not at all think she’s gonna die as I already explained why I think that is the case.
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