Tell me why I didn’t like the Belle scene, PLEASE!

[rumplegoldfankristi]

So I was totally looking forward to the Belle scene – expecting it to be my favorite scene in the episode. Instead, I found it – bizarre. Something just felt off about it and I’m not sure what it was. It wasn’t Emilie de Raven – love her to pieces. Maybe it was just weird, having her suddenly appear in the episode kind of out of nowhere??

I found it interesting that both Belle and Rumple seem to start drinking more than tea after they have their parting of ways. But somehow she just didn’t seem as upset as I would expect her to be. I went back and watched the episode again today and I still feel like she doesn’t seem very upset. I mean, here we have poor Rumple who has carried a freakin’ chipped teacup through the swirling chaos of the curse and kept the silly thing as a prized possession for years and beat the crap out of a man because he thought he was responsible for her death, and Belle is hanging out in a pub having a lovely heart to heart with a dwarf???

I’m totally confused. Was this right after she left the castle? Was she like “Well crap, that didn’t go well, I think I’ll stop for a pint?” Because for some reason I was under the impression it was shortly after she left the castle that the EQ must have locked her in her dungeons. I didn’t visualize her just hanging out at a pub.

I did find it comforting that she told Dreamy that he needed to be with his love. So she did obviously realize that she loves Rumple and that needs to be with him. What I couldn’t figure out though was why she hadn’t taken her own advice and marched her ugly blue shoes back to Rumple’s rather large estate and told Rumple the same thing she just told Dreamy. I mean, based upon what she told Rumple in her “room” she knows he really does love her but is just scared that she can’t really love him. So why didn’t she just go back and ask him what she had to do to prove to him that she loves him? She could have told him that she’ll never kiss him and that she’ll just stay with him forever in Rumple form since she fell in love with him that way anyway. She’s supposed to be a feisty little thing so going back and sitting on his spinning wheel until he agrees to talk to her about it wouldn’t be out of the question. I doubt he would do anything to hurt her – I mean he almost beat a man to death because he thought he stole her teacup . . .

[mia]

😆 Not what you intended, but I could see you (ok, not you, since I’ve got no idea how you look like, but some random person really) gesturing and making faces, while getting it all out there.

Ok, now to the serious answer.
I think they’re going to show us sometime (it may not be this season, but who knows) how Belle ended up locked up. I think we can be quite sure she was imprisoned in FTL and not just in SB.
I believe this scene in the pub was just after Rumpel kicked her out of the castle, she probably vented a lot on her way to the village and arriving there she just needed someplace to sit, think and let everything sink in. Much like all the people in SB, who go to Granny’s. (Anyone realised yet, that they show them drinking alcohol a LOT? Practically every episode there someone in need for a drink.)
On why Belle didn’t go back: She guessed that at that moment she wouldn’t be able to do anything, to convince him otherwise. Rumple’s way too stubborn. She may have come back sometime later, but she was then captured and could not go.

[rumplegoldfankristi]

The drinking at Granny’s cracks me up. For some reason I get the feeling it would be the equivalent to sitting down at the counter at Denny’s and asking for a whisky sour.

[Snickerdoodle]

So agree about the Denny’s drinking thing. Granny’s strikes me as a diner, not a pub or bar as well. Not sure why the writers think they need that in there or why they can;t write a little “cheers” scene at the Rabbit Hole each episode, where the girls were for Valentine’s Day. I’m sure one of those dwarves, like dopey, would make a great bartender.

also @ mia thought your idea about Belle deciding to go back and then being caught was a good one:)

[hjbau]

They probably have Granny’s diner be more of a pub because it is one less set also it allows them to use Ruby in those scenes as the bar tender.

[weedith]

I hate to say it because Emilie de Ravin seems like a lovely person, but I have never been terribly impressed with her emotional range. Of course I don’t know how she was directed, but it would have been interesting to see some real fear of Rumplestiltskin when she first went with him, perhaps some sadness at leaving her father. At the Dark Castle I could see R falling in love with her, but I think some people on this board could manage more longing looks in R’s direction. 😉 And when she left him at last, perhaps a tear or two.

So to me, that is what was missing from her exchange with Grumpy. The words were right, but there just did not seem to be any sense of loss or regret. If this was shortly after the “break-up,” as I assume it was, the emotions would still be very fresh and very raw. And I agree with you, there would probably be some impulse to go back and see him again, try to make him see what he is throwing away. There would be anger and hurt and confusion. Grumpy’s Belle seemed way too happy. And by the way, totally out of place drinking in the dwarf tavern! Maybe she just went there because she knew she wouldn’t get hit on, what with dwarves never falling in love!

Again, I don’t want to come across as mean or critical. Just one person’s opinion.

[nonnie]

I did find it comforting that she told Dreamy that he needed to be with his love. So she did obviously realize that she loves Rumple and that needs to be with him. What I couldn’t figure out though was why she hadn’t taken her own advice and marched her ugly blue shoes back to Rumple’s rather large estate and told Rumple the same thing she just told Dreamy. I mean, based upon what she told Rumple in her “room” she knows he really does love her but is just scared that she can’t really love him. So why didn’t she just go back and ask him what she had to do to prove to him that she loves him? She could have told him that she’ll never kiss him and that she’ll just stay with him forever in Rumple form since she fell in love with him that way anyway. She’s supposed to be a feisty little thing so going back and sitting on his spinning wheel until he agrees to talk to her about it wouldn’t be out of the question. I doubt he would do anything to hurt her – I mean he almost beat a man to death because he thought he stole her teacup . . .

Come on let her stew in her brew and lick her wounds a little til she has the courage to go back and give RUMPLE what for….

THAT SAID…. I think the reason she did not march to RUMPLE and tell him off was because EQ got her before she had the chance….

[nonnie]

I believe this scene in the pub was just after Rumpel kicked her out of the castle, she probably vented a lot on her way to the village and arriving there she just needed someplace to sit, think and let everything sink in. Much like all the people in SB, who go to Granny’s. (Anyone realised yet, that they show them drinking alcohol a LOT? Practically every episode there someone in need for a drink.)

AND THIS ON A FAMILY SHOW… PROHIBITION NEEDS TO BE ENACTED HERE. 🙄

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[nonnie]

So to me, that is what was missing from her exchange with Grumpy. The words were right, but there just did not seem to be any sense of loss or regret. If this was shortly after the “break-up,” as I assume it was, the emotions would still be very fresh and very raw. And I agree with you, there would probably be some impulse to go back and see him again, try to make him see what he is throwing away. There would be anger and hurt and confusion. Grumpy’s Belle seemed way too happy. And by the way, totally out of place drinking in the dwarf tavern! Maybe she just went there because she knew she wouldn’t get hit on, what with dwarves never falling in love!

My responce to RUMPLE is a POT UP THE SIDE OF THE HEAD til he saw thing my way….

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[obisgirl]

Looking back on it, that scene reminds of me when you get your heart broken. You either a) get a large tub of ice cream and eat as much as you can until you feel better or b) run to the nearest pub to drink away your sorrows. Since we haven’t really seen an ice cream parlor around FT land, I think Belle running to the nearest pub to drink away her heart break, is the next best thing.

Plus, I love how she was able to relate to ‘Dreamy’ and explain to him that what he was feeling, was love because he didn’t understand what it was.

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