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February 18, 2017 at 10:47 pm #333340sciencevsmagicParticipant
Ok, cool, that’s what I’ll do too then. I’ll watch the first episode sometime today and post my thoughts shortly.
[adrotate group="5"]February 19, 2017 at 4:48 am #333341sciencevsmagicParticipantAfter three episodes, my feelings are mixed. I’m really liking the ‘World Ending’ storyline, especially the tough decisions and conversations that come with that. This is what I signed up for in S4, and what I want to see more of. On the downside, the Azgeda arc isn’t doing it for me. It’s realistic, but I’m not finding it interesting. I feel like the Ice Nation conflict was prematurely curtailed in 3A, when they were being set up as the season’s ‘big bad’. Now, I’m just not in the mood to return to it. It doesn’t help that Echo seems pretty one dimensional and Roan hasn’t been developed beyond what we saw in S3.
Other thoughts
– The show started with 100, will it end with 100?
– Jasper is REALLY annoying. As harsh as it sounds, I wish they’d let him commit suicide. He’s being completely self centred, and still unnecessarily antagonistic to Clarke. I wish someone would slap him and remind him that he’s not the only one who’s been through stuff. They all just seem to let him get away with being a jerk.
– How is Monty still so functional after being forced to kill his mother? Poor Monty.
– Octavia’s a total badass, and surprisingly centred after losing Lincoln. Anyone else think that Octavian is going to become a ship?
– Indra has a daughter. Cool.
– Was Bellamy right to choose farm station survivors over the hydrogenerator?
– How on earth is it good policy to let Clarke make a list of people and then keep it under wraps? Shouldn’t this sort of thing be discussed? Be done using some sort of framework that accounts for how much each person can contribute, what their liklihood of survival is etc? Clarke making a list by herself and then hiding it just seems very unrealistic.
February 19, 2017 at 4:51 am #333342sciencevsmagicParticipantAfter three episodes, my feelings are mixed. I’m really liking the ‘World Ending’ storyline, especially the tough decisions and conversations that come with that. This is what I signed up for in S4, and what I want to see more of. On the downside, the Azgeda arc isn’t doing it for me. It’s realistic, but I’m not finding it interesting. I feel like the Ice Nation conflict was prematurely curtailed in 3A, when they were being set up as the season’s ‘big bad’. Now, I’m just not in the mood to return to it. It doesn’t help that Echo seems pretty one dimensional and Roan hasn’t been developed beyond what we saw in S3.
Other thoughts
– The show started with 100, will it end with 100?
– Jasper is REALLY annoying. As harsh as it sounds, I wish they’d let him commit suicide. He’s being completely self centred, and still unnecessarily antagonistic to Clarke. I wish someone would slap him and remind him that he’s not the only one who’s been through stuff. They all just seem to let him get away with being a jerk.
– How is Monty still so functional after being forced to kill his mother? Poor Monty.
– Octavia’s a total badass, and surprisingly centred after losing Lincoln. Anyone else think that Octavian is going to become a ship.
– Indra has a daughter. Cool.
– Was Bellamy right to choose farm station survivors over the hydrogenerator?
– How on earth is it good policy to let Clarke make a list of people and then keep it under wraps? Shouldn’t this sort of thing be discussed? Be done using some sort of framework that accounts for how much each person can contribute, what their liklihood of survival is etc? Clarke making a list by herself and then hiding it just seem very unrealistic.
February 19, 2017 at 4:52 am #333343sciencevsmagicParticipantAfter three episodes, my feelings are mixed. I’m really liking the ‘World Ending’ storyline, especially the tough decisions and conversations that come with that. This is what I signed up for in S4, and what I want to see more of. On the downside, the Azgeda arc isn’t doing it for me. It’s realistic, but I’m not finding it interesting. I feel like the Ice Nation conflict was prematurely curtailed in 3A, when they were being set up as the season’s ‘big bad’. Now, I’m just not in the mood to return to it. It doesn’t help that Echo seems pretty one dimensional and Roan hasn’t been developed beyond what we saw in S3.
Other thoughts
– The show started with 100, will it end with 100?
– Jasper is REALLY annoying. As harsh as it sounds, I wish they’d let him commit suicide. He’s being completely self centred, and still unnecessarily antagonistic to Clarke. I wish someone would slap him and remind him that he’s not the only one who’s been through stuff. They all just seem to let him get away with being a jerk.
– How is Monty still so functional after being forced to kill his mother? Poor Monty.
– Octavia’s a total badass, and surprisingly centred after losing Lincoln. Anyone else think that Octavian is going to become a ship.
– Indra has a daughter. Cool.
– Was Bellamy right to choose farm station survivors over the hydrogenerator?
– How on earth is it good policy to let Clarke make a list of people and then keep it under wraps? Shouldn’t this sort of thing be discussed? Be done using some sort of framework that accounts for how much each person can contribute, what their likelihood of survival is etc? Clarke making a list by herself and then hiding it just seem very unrealistic.
February 19, 2017 at 7:28 am #333344sciencevsmagicParticipantAfter three episodes, my feelings are mixed. I’m really liking the ‘World Ending’ storyline, especially the tough decisions and conversations that come with that. This is what I signed up for in S4, and what I want to see more of. On the downside, the Azgeda arc isn’t doing it for me. It’s realistic, but I’m not finding it interesting. I feel like the Ice Nation conflict was prematurely curtailed in 3A, when they were being set up as the season’s ‘big bad’. Now, I’m just not in the mood to return to it. It doesn’t help that Echo seems pretty one dimensional and Roan hasn’t been developed beyond what we saw in S3.
Other thoughts
– The show started with 100, will it end with 100?
– Jasper is REALLY annoying. As harsh as it sounds, I wish they’d let him commit suicide. He’s being completely self centred, and still unnecessarily antagonistic to Clarke. I wish someone would slap him and remind him that he’s not the only one who’s been through stuff. They all just seem to let him get away with being a jerk.
– How is Monty still so functional after being forced to kill his mother? Poor Monty.
– Octavia’s a total badass, and surprisingly centred after losing Lincoln. Anyone else think that Octavian is going to become a ship?
– Indra has a daughter. Cool.
– Was Bellamy right to choose farm station survivors over the hydrogenerator?
– How on earth is it good policy to let Clarke make a list of people and then keep it under wraps? Shouldn’t this sort of thing be discussed? Be done using some sort of framework that accounts for how much each person can contribute, what their likelihood of survival is etc? Clarke making a list by herself and then hiding it just seems very unrealistic.
February 19, 2017 at 10:05 am #333345RumplesGirlKeymasterJasper is REALLY annoying. As harsh as it sounds, I wish they’d let him commit suicide. He’s being completely self centred, and still unnecessarily antagonistic to Clarke. I wish someone would slap him and remind him that he’s not the only one who’s been through stuff. They all just seem to let him get away with being a jerk.
I totally agree with you. His pain in S3 was understandable but now it’s wearing thin.
– Was Bellamy right to choose farm station survivors over the hydrogenerator?
I don’t know if there any right or wrong choices in this world anymore. I do think Bellamy’s choice made sense from Bellamy’s character arc standpoint. After everything with Pike last season I wasn’t surprised that was the route Bellamy went. I also like that Bellamy has a optimist streak to him. He keep believing that Clarke will figure something out.
As for the Azgeda arc, I do agree that it’s not my favorite. I’d rather the focus be on Clarke and the world ending. But at least it’s not another season of the factions fighting. The things happening with the Azgeda plot are…smaller, I suppose.
–On another note: how cool was the effect in the premiere seeing radiation storm!
–So the Nightbloods are immune to the radiation. That makes sense since Becca had injected herself with that substance before coming down to Earth.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"February 19, 2017 at 11:30 am #333347hjbauParticipantOctavia has been epic this season so far. I am glad that Clark and Bellamy have just been accepted as the Sky Crew’s commander and as her second by the adults because that has been ridiculous for awhile. Clark making that list of the new 100 and leaving it in a desk was dumb and will cause problems. She needed to carry that list on her person or locked in that medicine room or just keep it in her head and not on paper.
I do really hope that Clark and Bellamy just don’t hook up, but i think that is where they are going.
Luna, the last nightblood girl, might help them create something to save people from the radiation, but they still need water and that is still going to be the problem because i don’t think it is possible for them to stop the reactors from melting down. That is an impossible task, so the only possible task is to save as many people as they can. I think it is more likely then not right now that they are going to kill the vast majority of the characters in the world at the end of the season, but hopefully not too many people of consequence. I hope they don’t kill everyone, but a new 100.
February 19, 2017 at 11:38 am #333348hjbauParticipantI don’t think that Bellamy was right to choose to help those farm station survivors over the hydro generator. They could have saved them later after the generator was safe. They will now just die horrible deaths later on anyways, dying outside of captivity is no better then inside. Also, i think they could have come back with fifty soldiers with guns and taken care of that quite easily.
I just thought about Murphy hanging out with that girl in that cave. Maybe they will find some safe ground water somehow or just some caves they can live in. Maybe Murphy being in that cave has some greater purpose.
February 22, 2017 at 7:34 am #333396sciencevsmagicParticipantI don’t know if there any right or wrong choices in this world anymore. I do think Bellamy’s choice made sense from Bellamy’s character arc standpoint. After everything with Pike last season I wasn’t surprised that was the route Bellamy went. I also like that Bellamy has a optimist streak to him. He keep believing that Clarke will figure something out.
Agree wholeheartedly about there not being right or wrong choices in this world. And yes, it was what I expected Bellamy to do. That’s sort of my problem. Bellamy’s leadership decisions are always based on the here and now; there is seldom much forethought, strategy or consideration of consequences. This style is brilliant for survival in the present moment, but it also leads to serious future consequences. If Bellamy is to grow as a leader, he needs to think more about the future.
–On another note: how cool was the effect in the premiere seeing radiation storm!
Chills!!!
I don’t think that Bellamy was right to choose to help those farm station survivors over the hydro generator. They could have saved them later after the generator was safe. They will now just die horrible deaths later on anyways, dying outside of captivity is no better then inside. Also, i think they could have come back with fifty soldiers with guns and taken care of that quite easily.
This is what I was thinking as I watched. They could have left spies there to see where their people were moved, and returned with a rescue mission. It wouldn’t have required more effort than building a new hydrogenerator!
I do really hope that Clark and Bellamy just don’t hook up, but i think that is where they are going.
Agree on both fronts. It would be such a cliche, and avoiding these is one of the shows’s great strengths. But I’d be very surprised (also impressed) if they didn’t hook up.
Enjoy today’s episode everyone!
February 24, 2017 at 7:36 am #333476sciencevsmagicParticipantI didn’t enjoy episode 4 as much as I was expecting to. The storyline of finding ALIE’s lab was just a lot of running around. Oh, and Nyko died, and that was sad. The Polis storyline had a couple of good moments, but that’s all it had. The Arkadia storyline was the one I was really looking forward to. In some ways, it didn’t disappoint, but I did have a few problems with it.
Here are my thoughts.
– Jasper is getting more annoying each episode. Yet, everyone continues to indulge him. This season, they’ve given him the narrative function of being the antagonist to Chancellor! Clarke. Now, someone absolutely needs to take on this role. But not Jasper. He’s gotten so annoying that I find myself automatically siding with Clarke every time he questions her, even if his point is reasonable. I mean, when everyone is working around the clock for their lives, he spends his time pulling pranks and breaking into the chancellor’s office. And yet, he gets treated like some tragic hero. It rankled me when Clarke apologised to HIM. Jasper needs to be taught a harsh lesson or he needs to go.
– When Jaha suggested the idea of the lottery, I suspected right away that he (and maybe the whole leadership group) is planning to mislead people, only to betray them at the very end by choosing exactly whom he wants.
– It’s starting to bug me the way everyone keeps questioning Clarke’s decisions in a really aggressive way. She’s saved them over and over again. Sure, she’s made mistakes and might still be making them. But it’s not like anyone else is the epitome of perfection. Take Harper for example. She was outraged at not being on the list. But wasn’t she the one who voted to save the 25 farm station survivors at the expense of the hydrogenerator? If she had voted differently, the list would have been a lot longer and she’d likely have been on it. Similarly, hardly a word was said to Bellamy about this decision as well. Yet when Clarke tries to deal with the fallout, she takes a lot of crap. Perhaps they’re trying to show the difficulties of leadership, but I find myself getting increasingly annoyed on Clarke’s behalf.
– The most dramatic scene of the episode was Bellamy and Kane being told of Octavia’s death. I loved the tension in this scene. I loved Bellamy’s reaction. It was also interesting how long Roan and Echo hesitated before delivering the news. They might have some compassion after all.
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