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The Baby Question

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Four › 4×20 “Mother” › The Baby Question

  • This topic has 20 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 10 years, 2 months ago by PriceofMagic.
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  • May 4, 2015 at 8:21 am #303718
    Sweets
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    3. I think it’s cruel for Regina to take Zelena’s baby, which she doesn’t want to give up, and then make Zelena watch from a distance as the child grows up calling Regina “mommy”. It is essentially baby-snatching.

    I don’t think Regina can take Zelena’s baby. Robin certainly can.

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    May 4, 2015 at 10:54 am #303733
    PriceofMagic
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    Not as cruel as Zelena was raping Robin. If Regina really wanted to be cruel, she wouldn’t allow Zelena to ever see the child at all, but she will. Having Zelena for a full time mother isn’t a healthy way for a child to be raised, so IMO it’s in the kid’s best interest to be raised by someone else.

    I disagree. I think forcing Zelena to watch her child grow up calling Regina “mommy” is worse than if she wasn’t allowed to see the child at all.

    Whilst we can all agree that Zelena raping Robin is bad and horrible, it can’t be used as a reason to justify why Zelena shouldn’t be allowed to be a mother for the reason that Regina raped Graham yet she was still allowed to be a mother to Henry. And if we’re basing why Zelena shouldn’t be a mother on Zelena’s past actions then by the same token, Regina should never have allowed to be a mother because of her past actions as the Evil Queen. It’s double standards, it shouldn’t be one rule for Regina and one rule for everyone else.

    Also Regina only started truly redeeming herself because of her maternal love for Henry. Why should Zelena be denied the same chance through the love of her child? Again it’s double standards (and hypocrisy on Regina’s part).

    I’m certainly not Zelena’s biggest fan but I think Regina is in the wrong here.

    <I don’t think Regina can take Zelena’s baby. Robin certainly can.

    Robin’s “code” wouldn’t allow him to keep the baby away from its mother fulltime. (or theoretically it shouldn’t but Robin only abides by the code when it suits him). Zelena and Robin should take turns with the baby, so they both have it 3 days each and alternate sundays. That way they don’t have to spend time together apart from when it comes to passing the baby to the other person for their allocated time.

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    Keeper of Felix
    May 4, 2015 at 11:43 am #303742
    Sweets
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    Also Regina only started truly redeeming herself because of her maternal love for Henry. Why should Zelena be denied the same chance through the love of her child? Again it’s double standards (and hypocrisy on Regina’s part).

    Zelena has displayed no positive emotion to being pregnant at all. It is just a tool she is using to make Regina miserable. Why should she have a prominent roll in the child’s life? We don’t know the future, but we do know Zelena in that scene would be a terrible mother.

    If I was Robin and Regina I would do the exactly the same thing. Very limited custody. And thats being generous.

    May 4, 2015 at 12:39 pm #303744
    PriceofMagic
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    Zelena has displayed no positive emotion to being pregnant at all. It is just a tool she is using to make Regina miserable. Why should she have a prominent roll in the child’s life? We don’t know the future, but we do know Zelena in that scene would be a terrible mother.

    I disagree. She seemed to show excitement when she felt the baby kick.

    All magic comes with a price!

    Keeper of Felix
    May 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm #303745
    RumplesGirl
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    Sweets wrote:

    Zelena has displayed no positive emotion to being pregnant at all. It is just a tool she is using to make Regina miserable. Why should she have a prominent roll in the child’s life? We don’t know the future, but we do know Zelena in that scene would be a terrible mother.

    I disagree. She seemed to show excitement when she felt the baby kick.

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    I thought it meant she was excited that her plan was coming together. I’m not so sure that Zelena is actually excited about baby so much as “yes! this is how I take down Regina!”

    In other news: I don’t want Zelena near that kid…BUT I have to wonder if that decision to keep her distanced won’t come back to bite Regina and Robin on the butt someday. Won’t this turn Zelena into more of a villain?

    Another reason why this pregnancy storyline needed to not be a thing

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm #303746
    Phee
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    She seemed to show excitement when she felt the baby kick.

    She’s not far enough along to have been able to feel the baby kick. She only said that when Emma was about to come at her to remind her, “Nope, remember I’m pregnant, you can’t lay a hand on me.” Her excitement in that moment wasn’t about being happy about the baby, it was being happy that she’s got protection now, and she’s got them all backed into a corner, and under her thumb, because she’s trapped and manipulated them by getting herself pregnant.

    May 5, 2015 at 11:43 pm #303934
    Slurpeez
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    Zelena really is pregnant but won’t be raising her child. It sounds like Robin and Regina will be, with Zelena granted very limited contact. How do you feel about this solution?

    Is it certain that the pregnancy is for real? Zelena could still be lying about being pregnant, since Regina didn’t make her pee on a stick or anything.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    May 5, 2015 at 11:52 pm #303935
    RumplesGirl
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    Zelena really is pregnant but won’t be raising her child. It sounds like Robin and Regina will be, with Zelena granted very limited contact. How do you feel about this solution?

    Is it certain that the pregnancy is for real? Zelena could still be lying about being pregnant, since Regina didn’t make her pee on a stick or anything.

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    I’d say it’s pretty certain, yes.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    May 6, 2015 at 12:09 am #303938
    Slurpeez
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    I’d say it’s pretty certain, yes.

    Okay, but based on what? In the show, all we have to go on is Zelena’s word, and she’s not exactly known for her honesty and trustworthiness.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    May 6, 2015 at 12:12 am #303939
    RumplesGirl
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    I’d say it’s pretty certain, yes.

    Okay, but based on what? In the show, all we have to go on is Zelena’s word, and she’s not exactly known for her honesty and trustworthiness.

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    Well the fact that no one is doubting her–Regina or Robin or even Emma (of the wonky super power)–is leading me to believe that there was some Off Screen-ville action in which something was done to test the legitimacy of said pregnancy. We went from “she’s pregnant” to Robin and Regina sitting in a bar and talking about it, so I assume something was done to test for baby and Zelena was not found to be lying

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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