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“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
Another possibility–Black Fairy is in the Land without magic and is a S4 reveal?
Possibly. To name check her this early means they’re building toward something.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"New Theory: Black Fairy is the Neverland Shadow 😮 Blue exiled her to NEVERLAND!!!
Now I still think Blue is indeed the shadow (https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/sneaky-shadow-is-sneaky/) But its still possible that the shadow is a fairy and still Blue….
Notice that at the mention of the black fairy’s wand, the shadow appeared. True, it was Pans shadow, but Pan didn’t know they were going to get the black fairy’s wand, so how did the shadow just know? Extra sus guys, >> extra sus
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC. True, it was Pans shadow, but Pan didn’t know they were going to get the black fairy’s wand, so how did the shadow just know? Extra sus guys, >> extra sus
Because Pan’s Shadow was above the Mills vault when Rumple told the scooby gang of his plan to get the Black Fairy’s wand, and Tink etc decided to go off to “pay respects” to Blue/get said wand. If you look at the top right of the screen you see the darkness with the flashy eyes…
I still think Blue might be good and Black is the one that is evil. Setting aside the fact I’m 99% sure they said at one point that Blue IS good, I’m going to look at what she said in this episode.
- Exiled the Black Fairy
- Maybe she was too strict
If the Black Fairy went off the deep end and became very rebellious to the Fairy Order and caused a lot of problems, it would make sense for the person taking over from her to want to get everything in line. In an attempt to not have anyone ever go down that path again, Blue became very strict and harsh.
We don’t know what turned the Black Fairy down that path, or even who she is yet, but it might shed some light on why Blue is the way she is. Up until now, she hasn’t wanted to help people she didn’t think deserved a second chance, she didn’t want love to get in the way of someone being a fairy etc. etc. So perhaps this Black Fairy really did a number on her and made her shut down and establish a very hard ruling thumb over the rest of the fairies to make sure a fairy never went down that path again because it was SO bad.
I completely agree that if they’re name-checking it this early, they’re building toward something. Otherwise it was just extremely random. So I’m inclined (since we haven’t seen backstory on Blue yet and MOST, not all but MOST characters are at least shades of grey and not JUST evil) to think that maybe Blue wasn’t always this way and that she’s just misunderstood and strict, and that the Black Fairy is actually the evil one. NO idea how she ties in but Blue has been in charge and bitter about stuff for a LONG time.
What we know about Blue other than her questionable actions:
- Ruel Gorum (spelling?) – Original Power
- Centuries old
- Exiled the Black Fairy
- Is now head fairy
The only part of that I’m not sure how to tie-in with her supposedly being good, and her exiling the Black Fairy is how was the Black Fairy more powerful if Blue was the “Original Power” unless it was more of a blanket GROUP of “original power” types and SHE wasn’t THE original power? Could it be a case of Morraine hearing stories and going with that? We’ve seen that before with other stories, most noticeably Anton’s being different from the tale everyone expected. Perhaps FAIRIES THEMSELVES are the “original power” as a collective unit?
So far we have:
- Black Fairy – unknown, was exiled by Blue
- Blue Fairy – head fairy, exiled the Black Fairy
- Gold Fairy – Cinderella’s Fairy Godmother, killed by Rumplestiltskin
- Pink Fairy – Nova, in training
- Green Fairy – Tinkerbell, rebellious and recently got her wings back, job unknown other than trying to help people find their soulmates (whether that is job or hobby is unknown but seems to be a fairy trait?)
What we’ve been shown so far, fairies in general seem to be “good” beings. Their goal is to help others in some way. We’ve seen granting of wishes (Blue), helping find soulmates (Tink), and then there are the fairy godmothers. These are all positive things. It sounds like the Black Fairy is the one that took things too far or did something horrible.
On first runthrough on this it does seem like Blue is high and mighty but I have a feeling we’ve seen her be mean to Nova and Tink as a reaction to what letting evil fairies stick around can do, especially with Tink. Instead of letting her stay rebellious and get into even more trouble, she took her wings. Her “crime” wasn’t nearly as bad as I would expect from whatever the Black Fairy has done since EVERYONE seems so afraid and that her wand is THE most powerful but it could still be a knee-jerk reaction to Blue in not wanting to watch history repeat itself with whatever horrible thing happened to her before.
Can we PLEASE get some Blue backstory now?? Hopefully with the introduction of the Black Fairy we’ll finally get some answers on Blue. I’m betting that the Black Fairy was extremely close to her and she probably turned a blind eye on all the little infractions over time and then something huge happened. They could have even been sisters or something. But her extreme reactions to little things like from Tink make me think she’s harsh so she can nip this in the bud and not let it create problems with potentially huge consequences. Guessing the Black Fairy got into something that was hard to stop. I’ll have to go back and watch but other than saying she exiled her I can’t remember what else was said. I’m betting exiling her and taking her wand wasn’t nearly as easy as taking Tink’s though, given the reactions we were getting from everyone who knew of her.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Is now head fairy
Should we use “now”? For all we know, Blue has always been head fairy.
The only part of that I’m not sure how to tie-in with her supposedly being good, and her exiling the Black Fairy is how was the Black Fairy more powerful if Blue was the “Original Power” unless it was more of a blanket GROUP of “original power” types and SHE wasn’t THE original power? Could it be a case of Morraine hearing stories and going with that? We’ve seen that before with other stories, most noticeably Anton’s being different from the tale everyone expected. Perhaps FAIRIES THEMSELVES are the “original power” as a collective unit?
I was so confused on this power structure. Regina says that the body/soul switching is something even Rumple cannot do but the Black Fairy’s wand can. But according to shady Morriane in “The Return” the only thing bigger than Rumple is the Blue Fairy.
So the power structure would be: Blue, Black, Rumple? Which….makes no sense when you look at what the Blue Fairy has done vs what Rumple has done. Blue couldn’t even get past a little dark magic spell around Gold’s shop (The Queen is Dead)–something Cora and Regina easily took down.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I wonder if this soul switching business is a power that belonged exclusively to the Black Fairy, like her special superpower? And if so, did she abuse that power, and that’s what got her exiled? And if so, whose souls was she messing with?
I wonder if this soul switching business is a power that belonged exclusively to the Black Fairy, like her special superpower? And if so, did she abuse that power, and that’s what got her exiled? And if so, whose souls was she messing with?
Ok I love this idea. Tink said that whatever the Black Fairy was doing, it was part of the dark arts/magic. So maybe she was going around switching souls. It may have started off as a “walk a mile in the other persons shoes” type deal but then she got vindictive and started using it for personal gain.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I think the Black Fairy is The Wicked Witch of the West. Makes sense considering we will be seeing the WWW. I feel like, she could have been a fairy at one point but became corrupt and Blue exiled her to Oz but she’s back in the Enchanted Forest, and she wants to take vengeance against the Blue Fairy.
I wonder if this soul switching business is a power that belonged exclusively to the Black Fairy, like her special superpower? And if so, did she abuse that power, and that’s what got her exiled? And if so, whose souls was she messing with?
I like that idea…especially since her wand was needed to switch Pan and Henry.
I am not saying that Blue is necessarily evil, but there is definitely more to her than meets the eye. I wonder if they are saving her backstory for end of series
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